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Sean K - Oct 26, 2004 7:17:38 am PDT #5065 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Serial:

Though, as far as narrative.... I also think the critics are too needing of narrative coherence. The Grudge does jump around a little, without warning, and they expect you to keep up. So if you are like a mainstream critic, and can't handle a movie that expects you to bring your brain along, you might not like it.

I expect you'll be able to follow along, where critics had a tougher time of it.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2004 7:29:18 am PDT #5066 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So if you are like a mainstream critic, and can't handle a movie that expects you to bring your brain along, you might not like it.

Sean, considering you haven't seen the film yet, perhaps you could refrain from implying that my husband (who found the film solidly mediocre) is an idiot who just couldn't follow the plot. Just a thought.


§ ita § - Oct 26, 2004 7:32:14 am PDT #5067 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The feedback I've gotten from people who've seen it has been that it's startling, and left them very jumpy, but not that it's creepy or scary outside of that.

My preferred horror is the creepy sort, since running up behind me and yelling boo sometimes startles.

Oddly, the image that has stuck with me worst from horror movies is from a not-that-good-one -- Langoliers. Something about the fog beyond which there is nothing -- got me solidly the next few times I flew, and it always comes to mind going through the frequent fogbanks on my way to work.


Sean K - Oct 26, 2004 7:34:16 am PDT #5068 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sean, considering you haven't seen the film yet, perhaps you could refrain from implying that my husband (who found the film solidly mediocre) is an idiot who just couldn't follow the plot. Just a thought.

Uh.... WHOOPS!

For what it's worth, I don't consider Fone Bone a mainstream critic (which is not meant to belittle the publication he works for, just meant to imply I hold him in higher regard than that).

But your point is taken.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2004 7:51:13 am PDT #5069 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But your point is taken.

Thank you.


Vonnie K - Oct 26, 2004 8:19:54 am PDT #5070 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

My preferred horror is the creepy sort, since running up behind me and yelling boo sometimes startles.

This is me, as well. Things that get under your skin insidiously. I don't particularly like being startled and I dislike gore, but I love being spooked, the kind of spooked that makes me remember that particular moment in the film days, weeks afterward and do a full-body shudder.

Sounds like I'll have to go see it for myself.


§ ita § - Oct 26, 2004 8:23:09 am PDT #5071 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The horror of the end of The Ring took a couple weeks to hit me, but when it did, it hit hard. It was just so appalling a resolution.

I liked that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 26, 2004 8:28:43 am PDT #5072 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think it's getting a bad rap, but it's not as effective and creepy as the original. They go for too many of the typical Hollywood startle/scare tricks, whereas Ju-on did a better job of showing dawning horror that wasn't so dependent on startling the audience. You knew something creepy was in the process of happening, and kept watching to see just how bad it could get.

Plus, the surfeit of American actors as the majority of the victims made it seem as if the Grudge wasn't so much against people who entered the haunted house as against rude Americans who didn't take their shoes off before entering.


DavidS - Oct 26, 2004 8:36:03 am PDT #5073 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oddly, the image that has stuck with me worst from horror movies is from a not-that-good-one -- Langoliers. Something about the fog beyond which there is nothing -- got me solidly the next few times I flew, and it always comes to mind going through the frequent fogbanks on my way to work.

Yeah whenever I see a dwarf in a red raincoat from Don't Look Now

eta: to help the spoiler averse it freaks my shit.


§ ita § - Oct 26, 2004 8:37:37 am PDT #5074 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

On the walk to the bus stop on the way home from my first big screen viewing of Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory, we passed a group of midgets (little people? dwarves?). The was a bit of trauma.

I can't make a way to properly font this post and not blow the spoiler in the preceding post.