We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 27, 2004 8:19:22 am PDT #3185 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And zombies really shouldn't be so scary because they're usually dim-witted and slow, but what's so unnerving about them to me is that they're dim-witted and slow.

Well, the zombies of the George Romero mold do seem to fall at the absolute nadir of Masahiro Mori's Uncanny Valley. We seem genetically or sociologically programmed to find them creepier than anything else.

OMG. So dead to me since Dracula. Didn't even remember he was in the movie.

I can't blame him for that one. All my Dracula hate is aimed squarely between Winona Ryder's enormous Manga cartoon character eyes. (Yes, I realize Keanu sucked, but it's not as if that was any huge surprise. And he didn't convince Coppolla that the moodiest horror novel of the late 19th century would be much better if it were a frickin' love story!)


Nutty - Aug 27, 2004 8:31:03 am PDT #3186 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My Dracula hatred is for whoever thought a movie was more fun without any subtext. Generally speaking, when a hairy beast shows up in the middle of a Victorian horror tale to have wild sex in the garden with a virginal blond girl, you know that there is no point in seeking any 'deeper meaning'.

I mean, okay, love poetry with the hairy beast, but fucking au naturel??


Sean K - Aug 27, 2004 8:50:53 am PDT #3187 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

My Dracula hatred is for whoever thought a movie was more fun without any subtext.

Nutty, I think you just put your finger on why that movie bothered me, even though so many of my friends liked it. Any dracula movie should have killer subtext, and lots of sexual tension.

Actual on-screen sex is kind of the antithesis of sexual tension and subtext.


beekaytee - Aug 27, 2004 9:02:00 am PDT #3188 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I dunno. The scene where Drac stares at Winona across the street and whispers, "See me." makes me come over all swoony.


DavidS - Aug 27, 2004 9:23:33 am PDT #3189 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Right, but the point was, Star Wars is based on a handful of Asian pictures, not on their western/Western siblings. Although now I have a vision in my head of Clint Eastwood with a sword, and that is entertaining.

Star Wars is such a mishmash though. It certainly is based on Samurai films (both C-3PO and R2D2 have specific precedents), but the end of the movie is taking from a WW2 movie about a bombing attack by uhm, Doolittle? (DXM?) And Han Solo is from the kind of adventure serial/pulp adventure that would be refined with the Indiana Jones movies. There are also some Knights in Armor movie bits, plus Prisoner of Zenda and like that.


Sean K - Aug 27, 2004 9:38:19 am PDT #3190 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I dunno. The scene where Drac stares at Winona across the street and whispers, "See me." makes me come over all swoony.

Heh. See, all my friends are sort of the same way, Beej. They all go all swoony at the "romance."

I'm just baffled at the part where you all gloss over the fact that it's a REALLY BAD MOVIE!

But as evidenced above, I have my own list of VERY BAD MOVIES that I love, so take my opinion on that for what it's worth.


Betsy HP - Aug 27, 2004 9:39:32 am PDT #3191 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

My God. They made a sequel to Baby Geniuses.


§ ita § - Aug 27, 2004 9:40:46 am PDT #3192 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From IMDB's studio briefing:

Critics are suggesting that Bob Clark's SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2 may vie with Clark's original 1999 film Baby Geniuses for one of the worst films of all time. (Dave Kehr in the New York Times points out that the original ranks No. 7 on Metacritic.com's worst-film list.) Indeed, Kevin Crust in the Los Angeles Times writes that the movie "may quite easily put an end to any discussion of what is the worst theatrical release of 2004." Lou Lumenick in the New York Post calls it "spectacularly awful, way worse than you'd expect from a supposed family film being dumped into Hollywood's version of the Bermuda Triangle: a late-August release by a studio (Columbia) resorting to an alias (Triumph)." And Mike Clark in USA Today refers to it as "a late-August dog-days atrocity from the 'aren't farts funny?' school of filmmaking."


Jessica - Aug 27, 2004 9:41:26 am PDT #3193 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My God. They made a sequel to Baby Geniuses.

If you value your eyes, you will NOT WATCH THE TRAILER, because the only way to make the pain stop will be to poke them out.


Sean K - Aug 27, 2004 9:45:42 am PDT #3194 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

If you value your eyes, you will NOT WATCH THE TRAILER, because the only way to make the pain stop will be to poke them out.

Poor, blind Jessica. You had such pretty eyes....