Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead was feeling a little less special. Didn't like me crashing his exclusive club, another vampire with a soul in the world. Angel: You're not in the world, Casper.

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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Kate P. - Aug 08, 2004 4:11:07 pm PDT #2507 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I thought Ned Kelly was all right. I don't actually remember much of Orlando's part in it, though, except for being kinda skeezy, and there was a scene with him in a bathtub that was pretty nice.

How was Ned Kelly, apart from Orlando, ita? I liked the book a lot.

You mean the Peter Carey book, Lee? I read that last year--it was excellent. I don't think the movie was taken specifically from the book. They share the same source material, of course, but the focus differs. And the book is better, and makes more sense out of the legend (and has, I think, more of the quality ita was talking about: the "soul of a country" kind of thing).


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2004 4:28:47 pm PDT #2508 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He was skeezy. Macking on all the chicks. Getting them too. Which made me smile, because he's still so virginal in the movies that made it to wide release in the US.

In the end, I can see if you already believe in Ned Kelly, it working for you. Not an effective conversion piece.

Also watched James Dean with James Franco. Very nice mimicking. Of course, I know nothing about Dean, so I have no idea what was true, and what was made up. I guess it must be a lot, because they had at least one disclaimer.


Consuela - Aug 08, 2004 4:31:10 pm PDT #2509 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I saw Starship Troopers last night.

Gah. Gah. Gah. Had to put on a bad Stargate episode afterwards to get the taste out of my mouth.

That's the worst movie I've seen voluntarily in several years. I used the fast-forward button liberally.


Betsy HP - Aug 08, 2004 4:41:05 pm PDT #2510 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The weird thing is that Hugh Jackman can open a musical -- everybody, hands-down, agrees that the only thing that made The Boy From Oz worth seeing was Jackman, and that Jackman made it well worth seeing. They're closing it when he leaves -- even the producers know it's a lost cause.

Jackman can keep a musical alive, but not a movie.


Scrappy - Aug 08, 2004 4:44:49 pm PDT #2511 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

That's a movie that gets film geeks at each other's throats, Suela. One camp find it a pointed satire on fascism and patriotism using visual tropes from propaganda films in interesting ways, the other (heretofore known as the "right" camp, as it's the one I'm in) feels that it doesn't work as satire because the commentary needs to be read into it, rather than being there to be understood. For the right camp, it's a flat sci-fi film loaded with dull 2-D characters.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2004 4:51:07 pm PDT #2512 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jackman can keep a musical alive, but not a movie.

You say that, but let them try and mount Swordfish! and see how that fares.

I'm glad he made the show, and not just in a rubbernecking sort of way -- it wasn't like Jordan selling Barons tickets, was it?


sumi - Aug 08, 2004 5:01:16 pm PDT #2513 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Didn't he get a Tony? Or at least a Tony nom?

That doesn't sound like Jordan selling Barons tickets to me.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2004 5:03:12 pm PDT #2514 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Knowing nothing about the facts, I'm always deeply cynical of the amount of attention garnered by crossovers. But concomitantly happy when it's not a Barons thing.


Scrappy - Aug 08, 2004 5:08:32 pm PDT #2515 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

But Jackman started in theater--it's not a crossover. Some actors, like Kevin Kline or Matthew Broderick, go back and forth between theater and film all the time.


Dana - Aug 08, 2004 5:10:45 pm PDT #2516 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

He got a Tony, and it was an astonishing performance. The woman I saw it with said "He was as good as the show was bad."

So yeah, the show's closing because it sucks, but it's been a success because he was the star.