That would be me.
Didn't like it?
Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.
Xander ,'Sleeper'
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Sean K - Aug 04, 2004 8:02:32 pm PDT #2146 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
beekaytee - Aug 04, 2004 8:09:40 pm PDT #2147 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Oh Jeez. False attribution. Sorry P-C.
Sean, appreciate the recommendation (now I remember) based on my wanting to get into the medieval vibe.
This one was just hard for me to take. I'm listening to the Verhoeven commentary to get some insight now.
JohnSweden - Aug 04, 2004 8:15:42 pm PDT #2148 of 10001
I can't even.
Been so long since I've seen Flesh and Blood. There's a Verhoeven commentary? Hmm. Anyone else? (To the Googlemobile!)
beekaytee - Aug 04, 2004 8:19:31 pm PDT #2149 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Nope. Just Paul with his very interesting accent.
"First they wear the red closes and then Rootgr changes into the white closes."
He's throwing in a lot of history and info about traveling in Spain.
During the narrowly averted gang-rape scene, he talks about how hard it must have been for JJL to have a million people around (night, location shoot, no privacy) and then merrily switches into a chalk talk about the costumes. Jarring? Kinda.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 04, 2004 8:24:36 pm PDT #2150 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Hmm. Hot cardboard...
Nope. Does nuthin' for me.
I suspect you (and I) weren't the target audience they were aiming her at. However, I don't think I can complain too loudly about this aspect, as the first movie had Stephen Dorff lounging around without a shirt all the time for no discernible reason. Not to mention a confrontation scene with Udo Kier that made the Angel/Lindsey subtext look subtle in comparison.
Sean K - Aug 04, 2004 8:32:13 pm PDT #2151 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Sean, appreciate the recommendation (now I remember) based on my wanting to get into the medieval vibe.
Trust me, there were parts of that movie that bothered me greatly. But you know, medieval times? Not pretty. This way you get all the bases covered.
beekaytee - Aug 04, 2004 8:35:15 pm PDT #2152 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Which is, interestingly, the exact point he's making now.
Medieval times = ugly.
Now? Not so different. (He uses the examples of genocide in Africa and millions of innocents slaughtered in Eastern Europe.)
So, yeah. Gritty.
beekaytee - Aug 04, 2004 8:37:44 pm PDT #2153 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
as the first movie had Stephen Dorff lounging around without a shirt all the time for no discernible reason. Not to mention a confrontation scene with Udo Kier that made the Angel/Lindsey subtext look subtle in comparison.
You mean that stuff wasn't artistic intergrity? I coulda sworn it was.
I was definitely the target audience for those scenes. mmmm.
beekaytee - Aug 04, 2004 8:42:43 pm PDT #2154 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Sean, As we get further into the commentary, Verhoeven is adding a lot of medieval daily living details. I just bought Daily Life in Medieval Times to read up on these tidbits. Now I can't just turn off the picture and type up the factoids. So. Useful!
beekaytee - Aug 04, 2004 8:43:27 pm PDT #2155 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Okay, I really need to go to bed.
Ciao, all.