I think you have to pay $$ to submit photos.
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sumi - Aug 03, 2004 12:13:27 pm PDT #1993 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Nutty - Aug 03, 2004 12:14:03 pm PDT #1994 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
It also does not make sense to me that the guild dictate who can get credit. If that is the case, why don't they intervene on Alan Smithee films?
1. All Hollywood guilds dictate who can get credit. Michael J. Fox has the J. in his guild-registered name because there was an old guy name of Michael Fox on The Bold and the Beautiful, and the guild does not allow two concurrent members with the exact same name.
1A. the writers' guild arbitrates who gets writing credit alla time. I don't think it actually has a thing to do with money, as royalties and grants are all worked out in contracts, but the final credit, if in dispute, goes to the guild for arbitration.
2. The director's guild, like, invented Alan Smithee, didn't they? You can't just lie and say it was Any Dumb Guy who directed your movie (Tony Kaye tried it, and they wouldn't let him); if you want your name off the movie it has to be Alan Smithee. Or had to be, because they retired the name, and I don't know what they're doing now.
Lyra Jane - Aug 03, 2004 12:18:24 pm PDT #1995 of 10001
Up with the sun
go unions! choose unions! I'm just reacting to RR AND Miller being dissed.
How is the DG not a union?
I agree this rule sounds arbitrary, but I''m willing to believe there's a reason for it, even if it seems to be poorly-applied in this case.
§ ita § - Aug 03, 2004 12:18:28 pm PDT #1996 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Apparently pseuds are chosen on a case by case basis now, since some people broke Alan Smithee. This is why we can't have nice aliases anymore!
Dana - Aug 03, 2004 12:21:13 pm PDT #1997 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
So how are you supposed to know if a director had his name taken off a movie now? I mean, I didn't know that about Supernova!
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 03, 2004 12:23:45 pm PDT #1998 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
2. The director's guild, like, invented Alan Smithee, didn't they? You can't just lie and say it was Any Dumb Guy who directed your movie (Tony Kaye tried it, and they wouldn't let him); if you want your name off the movie it has to be Alan Smithee. Or had to be, because they retired the name, and I don't know what they're doing now.
Using the name Martin Brest?
Nutty - Aug 03, 2004 12:28:27 pm PDT #1999 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
So how are you supposed to know if a director had his name taken off a movie now? I mean, I didn't know that about Supernova!
Huh. And since one of the rules seems to be "you can't badmouth your own movie once your name's been removed from it", how are we eevr to know? It's not like it will be listed front and center in Entertainment Weekly.
I mean, I coulda told you Supernova needed an Alan Smithee-type credit, just from watching it while working on a sewing project and seeing Peter Facinelli grow fangs; but apparently I am not formally the arbiter of taste. Not that I am not bitter about that.
beekaytee - Aug 03, 2004 12:30:46 pm PDT #2000 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
go unions! choose unions! I'm just reacting to RR AND Miller being dissed.
How is the DG not a union?
DG = union. That comment was just me not wanting to come off as a union basher.
On the Metro red line, on the way to New Carrollton, there is a mural painted on the side of a train-facing building. "Unions, the folks who brought you the weekend."
I just wonder about the legislation of creativity. Then again, if there weren't unions to look after the less-than-organized creative bunch, there would be no Actor's Home, or insurance or wage negotiations, etc.
My agita started with an admittedly irrational, "Hey, leave Robert Rodriguez alone or I'll have to kick you in the shins!" outburst.
alienprayer - Aug 03, 2004 2:19:10 pm PDT #2001 of 10001
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Meaningless bureaucracy is not limited to the DGA - Terry Gilliam quit the Writers Guild after they gave Alex Cox and Todd Davies screenplay credit for Fear and Loathing. Gilliam and Grisoni tossed the original script after they were brought in, but the Writers Guild awarded Cox and Davies co-credit on the final film.
He may have joined back up, as he has a writing credit on Brothers Grimm. Of course it was not shot in America, so maybe not. They probably were offended when he burnt his membership card.
Volans - Aug 03, 2004 2:47:52 pm PDT #2002 of 10001
move out and draw fire
Rodriguez and Miller, not OK -- they've never teamed up before now, and Miller's never made a movie in his life.
So, how would you ever become a legitimate creative team, other than being born to the same parents? (Or married; maybe RR and Miller could get married?) If Miller gets a directing credit under his belt, would that make them eligible?
I'm really unhappy with the ending of The Manchurian Candidate. I was all applauding them smartening up the Janet Leigh character, but I guess that's where all the movie's smarts went. Also, the movie should have been called Big Heads. I really wanted to climb through time and back the focus off just a bit.