I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


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§ ita § - Aug 03, 2004 11:49:23 am PDT #1980 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Some people carry their weight in their breasts, some in their nose.


Narrator - Aug 03, 2004 11:51:34 am PDT #1981 of 10001
The evil is this way?

> IIRC, he was forced out of the other project when he resigned from the Directors Guild after the whole "multiple directors" brouhaha over Sin City.

I'm confused (again). What mulitple directors brouhaha, why would the DGA care and why would him not being a member of the DGA mean he couldn't direct this other movie?


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2004 11:54:23 am PDT #1982 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Some studios won't hire non-union directors, I bet. RR dropped out of DGA when they wouldn't let him share directing credit with Frank Miller, the comic creator.


evil jimi - Aug 03, 2004 11:55:41 am PDT #1983 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Beej ... I read about it here.


Nutty - Aug 03, 2004 11:57:21 am PDT #1984 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Apparently, there is a Guild rule that you may not have more than one director credited on a movie unless the two people are legitimately a "creative team" or some such verbiage. Thus, Hughes twins, OK; Coen brothers, OK; Rodriguez and Miller, not OK -- they've never teamed up before now, and Miller's never made a movie in his life.

(This is the movie Sin City, based on Miller's comics, which is how Miller got involved.)

So, Rodriguez had to drop Miller from the director credit, or resign from the Guild. He chose the latter. Having chosen the latter, he is not a member of the Guild, and thus may not direct other features that fall within the Guild umbrella. Sort of like, if you're a non-union carpenter, a lot of places won't hire you, unless you join the union.

I think Rodriguez can re-join the Guild, but maybe not for a set period of time.

Also, I stand with bon bon in the "definitely a skinnier nose" camp.


Narrator - Aug 03, 2004 11:57:36 am PDT #1985 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Thanks for the explanation


DavidS - Aug 03, 2004 11:58:39 am PDT #1986 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Coen brothers, OK

For the Coens, one brother takes the directing credit and the other brother takes the producing credit, actually. Even though they do both jobs together.


evil jimi - Aug 03, 2004 11:59:36 am PDT #1987 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Narrator ... it was all to do with Sin City, which Rodriguez co-directed with Frank Miller. Under DGA guidelines, only one name can be listed under the Director banner. Not sure what their rationale is for that.

(or what Nutty said)

Oh and speaking of Princess of Mars --which is one of my all-time favourite books--I'm still reeling from the fact that article says Harry I'm a Sycophantic Fuckstick Knowles is "co-producer". What the fuck?


Nutty - Aug 03, 2004 12:03:10 pm PDT #1988 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Oh, okay. So currently the Hughes twins are the only co-directors I can think of. Except, wait -- there have been a couple of writing teams that turned to directing, as teams. Neal Jimenez and [memfault], e.g., directed The Waterdance together, based on a script they'd worked on together. Right?

Anyway, it's a rule. I think to avoid the kind of writer's guild controversies that we see alla time -- like, what if both directors agree at the outset, but they try to fire each other mid-movie? Nobody wants to see an arbitrated list of 5 people all credited as director.


beekaytee - Aug 03, 2004 12:04:08 pm PDT #1989 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Thanks for the links.

On the nose? Ahhhh sooooo.

On the DGA. Screwm.

It also does not make sense to me that the guild dictate who can get credit. If that is the case, why don't they intervene on Alan Smithee films?

How funny is it that Alan Smithee has 60 credits on imdb? Okay, maybe not funny in the amusing sense.

eta: go unions! choose unions! I'm just reacting to RR AND Miller being dissed.