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tommyrot - Aug 02, 2004 6:21:27 am PDT #1897 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Welles said that the rosebud story was pretty well-known when CK came out because a disgruntled servant had passed it to the gossip magazines.

::makes note to be sure that all servants that know intimate details of my sex-life are gruntled::


sumi - Aug 02, 2004 6:26:34 am PDT #1898 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I sent her a picture of Clive Owen from Croupier thinking that it ought to work. (He was in the tux -- but with dark rather than blond hair.)

Still -- thinks he looks too thuggish. Well, it doesn't really matter -- since he doesn't want to be Bond.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 6:32:01 am PDT #1899 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, you're supposed to swoon and want to be him/do him.

I forget -- not everyone has the same swoon be/do criteria I do.

Any man that's been given official clearance to be able to kill at 25 -- I'm impressed.


Nutty - Aug 02, 2004 6:37:52 am PDT #1900 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think it takes age and maturity to be worthy of a killing license. Like, what credentials can a 25 y.o. possibly have amassed to support his application, failing an outright war? Only the kind of killing that say "sociopath", which on the whole is not the way to go when you are thinking franchise.

A couple years older, he's had time to, like, go to college, gain some experience of the world, and then start killing people, work his way up the chain of command, you know.

Also, I suspect an assassin in his 30s would not be doing things like getting drunk and mooning people in a bar, whereas this does not strike me as atypical behavior in a 25 y.o. assassin. The nice thing about assassins is, because they kill for a living, nobody blinks twice at the impulse to kill them, especially when they are being boorishly obnoxious.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 6:41:23 am PDT #1901 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

whereas this does not strike me as atypical behavior in a 25 y.o. assassin

You had rougher 20s than I did, I guess. I know as many moronic 30 and 40 odd year olds as I do 25 year olds.

You're not giving the average person a license to kill, ever.

I wonder about all the other unlicensed spies. So they're restricted to thrashing their opponents to within and inch of their lives? Much trickier than killing them, for sure.


sumi - Aug 02, 2004 6:41:38 am PDT #1902 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Nutty -- I hope that the people making the "Young Bond" movie use some of your suggestions.

Because: Funny.


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2004 6:52:58 am PDT #1903 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I rewatched Chopper last night. Bana, even 35 pounds heavier, is defintely charismatic. Don't know about the sophisiticated. That's a problem a lot of people have with my lovah Clive Owen, especially in England, I've read. He's not got a posh aura or accent. Me, I think he can do anything.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 6:54:02 am PDT #1904 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How posh was Connery when he took on the mantle?


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2004 7:01:29 am PDT #1905 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

He wasn't. but he played posh. Clive's got a Midlands accent, which apprently is not Bonds-y. I don't agree with any of this, but it's what "they" are saying.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 7:04:45 am PDT #1906 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He wasn't. but he played posh

Which is pretty much the key requirement, isn't it?

I'm guessing they think that Clive can't act well enough? I mean, he's not an assassin either, but he did manage to pull that off.

How very odd.