Buffy: A Guide, but no water or food. So it leads me to the sacred place and then a week later it leads you to my bleached bones? Giles: Buffy, really. It takes more than a week to bleach bones.

'Dirty Girls'


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Kathy A - Jul 29, 2004 1:11:59 pm PDT #1643 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Beej, I'm with you on the GWTW non-love. I saw it on the big screen back when I was around 11, and was not impressed. Tried watching it again during college on the slightly-smaller screen, and even though the epic scenes were pretty cool (I thought the sheer number of bodies in the wounded-at-the-railway-station scene did a great job of adding to the scale of the film), and the dancing was well done, I still didn't feel much of anything for it. Finally, tried it again a few years back when it showed up on TCM one Sunday night. The various scenes with slaves just set my teeth on edge, and I wanted to slap Scarlett silly, shake Melanie out of her "I'm such a saint" mood, tell Ashley to grow a pair, and slap Rhett for being just as much of a jerk as Scarlett. Finally, I just turned the channel instead of yelling at the screen any more.


beekaytee - Jul 29, 2004 1:16:58 pm PDT #1644 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

The various scenes with slaves just set my teeth on edge, and I wanted to slap Scarlett silly, shake Melanie out of her "I'm such a saint" mood, tell Ashley to grow a pair, and slap Rhett for being just as much of a jerk as Scarlett. Finally, I just turned the channel instead of yelling at the screen any more.

You are me! Kathy. phew


Hayden - Jul 29, 2004 1:17:07 pm PDT #1645 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

If it helps with the classics, here's AFI's 100 Greatest American Movies with links to their other 100 greatest lists.

For me, Citizen Kane was great because it was a classic oral history, with all the people telling the story of Kane's life through their own perceptions. Me = big on relativism.

Anyway, classics from that list that I don't like include Gone With The Wind, ET, West Side Story, The Sound of Music, Network, Forrest Gump, and Dances With Wolves.


DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:22:17 pm PDT #1646 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm hoping that they are purposefully blurring the line between good-guy-hero and bad-ass-psychopath

::says nothing::

A psychopath is not the same thing as a psychotic. "Psychopath" is the obsolete term for sociopath, or somebody incapable of moral formation and empathy.

It's not my fault I remember stuff from my Abnormal Psychology class.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:24:00 pm PDT #1647 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A psychopath is not the same thing as a psychotic

Is Batman a psychopath? I don't think they're equivalent, but I figured the DSM was going to be whipped out anyway.


Polter-Cow - Jul 29, 2004 1:26:05 pm PDT #1648 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

A psychopath is not the same thing as a psychotic. "Psychopath" is the obsolete term for sociopath, or somebody incapable of moral formation and empathy.

So ita can say he's a psycho, but she can't say he's psycho.


DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:26:33 pm PDT #1649 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Is Batman a psychopath?

The not-killing credo suggests not. Also he seems to have some empathy with his charges.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:27:52 pm PDT #1650 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The not-killing credo suggests not.

Well, then my point stands untouched.

Also he seems to have some empathy with his charges.

Hmm. You're reading different books from me. He may be concerned with their well-being, but empathy seems rather a stretch.


DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:28:56 pm PDT #1651 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So ita can say he's a psycho, but she can't say he's psycho.

Psycho has detached and become free-floating crazy. It would probably be more fun to analyze what kind of official mental disorders Bats really does have.


DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:30:13 pm PDT #1652 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

He may be concerned with their well-being, but empathy seems rather a stretch.

Taking in Dick in the first place seems pretty empathetically driven. He knows how Dick feels after losing his parents.