A psychopath is not the same thing as a psychotic
Is Batman a psychopath? I don't think they're equivalent, but I figured the DSM was going to be whipped out anyway.
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§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:24:00 pm PDT #1647 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Polter-Cow - Jul 29, 2004 1:26:05 pm PDT #1648 of 10001
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A psychopath is not the same thing as a psychotic. "Psychopath" is the obsolete term for sociopath, or somebody incapable of moral formation and empathy.
So ita can say he's a psycho, but she can't say he's psycho.
DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:26:33 pm PDT #1649 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Is Batman a psychopath?
The not-killing credo suggests not. Also he seems to have some empathy with his charges.
§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:27:52 pm PDT #1650 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The not-killing credo suggests not.
Well, then my point stands untouched.
Also he seems to have some empathy with his charges.
Hmm. You're reading different books from me. He may be concerned with their well-being, but empathy seems rather a stretch.
DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:28:56 pm PDT #1651 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
So ita can say he's a psycho, but she can't say he's psycho.
Psycho has detached and become free-floating crazy. It would probably be more fun to analyze what kind of official mental disorders Bats really does have.
DavidS - Jul 29, 2004 1:30:13 pm PDT #1652 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
He may be concerned with their well-being, but empathy seems rather a stretch.
Taking in Dick in the first place seems pretty empathetically driven. He knows how Dick feels after losing his parents.
beekaytee - Jul 29, 2004 1:31:56 pm PDT #1653 of 10001
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§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:33:25 pm PDT #1654 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Taking in Dick in the first place seems pretty empathetically driven.
I think we'll continue to differ. Not only do I think there are other interpretations you can put on that, the charge-empathy is not a notable characteristic of his interactions I've read since then.
A psychologist comic-freak friend of mine told me that insasmuch as you could diagnose a comic book character, Bats is psychotic. But I suppose forcing the meta through is more dependent on the person doing it than anything else.
tommyrot - Jul 29, 2004 1:33:31 pm PDT #1655 of 10001
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Taking in Dick in the first place seems pretty empathetically driven. He knows how Dick feels after losing his parents.
You could argue that he took in Dick to... fulfill certain needs.
(I only wrote the above because it sounds super-porny.)
P.M. Marc - Jul 29, 2004 1:49:50 pm PDT #1656 of 10001
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Taking in Dick in the first place seems pretty empathetically driven. He knows how Dick feels after losing his parents.
A lack of demonstrated empathy for the feelings of the various members of the Batfamily once they're established has been a leitmotiv in the books for a dog's age. For whatever that's worth.
Also, The Third Man should have been higher on that list.