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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 7:04:05 am PDT #1578 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's the related Magical Retarded Person trope.

And we have to applaud Cuba for going for the two-fer in Radio. Or the three-fer, if you include sports as metaphor for life.


Jessica - Jul 29, 2004 7:04:46 am PDT #1579 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've had this reaction to a few things. Casablanca, Citizen Kane, a few others.

I definitely had this reaction to Casablanca. Also Bladerunner.

Citizen Kane, though, I adored, and I didn't expect to, because it is so iconic. (And after hearing it called The Greatest American Film EVER about a thousand times, I thought there was no way it wasn't going to be horribly overrated and disappointing. But it wasn't! And I was all, yay!)


Fred Pete - Jul 29, 2004 7:04:50 am PDT #1580 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Okay, Citizen Kane bored me.

CK is very much an "if you get into the story" movie.

Welles's follow-up, The Magnificent Ambersons, is pretty similar. Technically brilliant, but not a story for everyone. Well, plus the last half hour really should be about 20 minutes longer (but that leads into the whole "the studio cut about 45 minutes out of Welles's cut, and then the film was destroyed" matter).


Calli - Jul 29, 2004 7:05:29 am PDT #1581 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I haven't seen Forrest Gump. I've yet to hear a reason why that should change.

I haven't seen Touch of Evil or Triplets of Bellville. That probably will change, sooner or later.

And back to the hot fellas discussion:

Clive Owen: Meh.

Tobey Maguire: I like watching him act and can easily see myself doing his Peter Parker or that jockey fella. But I have to avoid watching him in the DVD extras. Re: Peter Parker and MJ, he said something along the lines of, "She has to get past her need to be with the popular guys." Uh, no. She has to get past her need to be with guys who actually, you know, show up occasionally. Bring your personal issues to the set if they help your performance, but leave 'em off the commentaries, sweetie.

Jake Gyllenhall: Creepy pretty.

Matt Damon: I like him more with every performance. Still not at the stage where I need to lick him, but that's not out of the question some day.

James Franco: Hot like a hot thing full of chili powder. Mmmmm.

Colin Firth: Meh.

Guy Pearce: Way too bland.

Orlando Bloom: Mmmmmmmm. Yes, please.

Johnny Depp: Also, mmmmmmmmm.

Jack Davenport: Mmmmm, with a side of yummers.

Hugh Jackman: I've been of "I see why ya'll like him" opinion for ages. Liked his work, didn't feel the lust. Then I rewatched X-Men the other day and something clicked. Now I need to lick him as he reads Stoppard monologues to me.


tommyrot - Jul 29, 2004 7:06:03 am PDT #1582 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Citizen Kane

I liked the structure of it, I think; finding out the man's life via his interactions with all these other people.

That's exactly why I love it....


Nutty - Jul 29, 2004 7:06:09 am PDT #1583 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think Forrest Gump was the movie where Gary Sinise first revealed that, although he is not bald, practically every wig put on him during the course of a movie makes him look like he is.

As for Touch of Evil, I think that it's a movie easier to love if you read Cahiers du Cinema than if you don't. It is often hard to love a movie if its appeal lies only in form and revolutionariness.


Jeff Mejia - Jul 29, 2004 7:09:53 am PDT #1584 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

I don't understand people who liked Cube. It seemed to me like a pretty typical gory horror movie. Also, don't watch the second one.

I thought it was a neat little examination of existentialism, in the trappings of a gory horror movie. I also appreciated the inventiveness of using the same set over and over again, without it becoming boring. (I wonder how the actors felt about it, though). I think I tracked the movie down because Nicole de Boer starred in it, and she was/had just joined the Star Trek: Deep Space 9 cast and I wanted to see an example of her work.

I loved Touch of Evil (although Charlton Heston as a Mexican stretched my suspension of disbelief). I especially appreciate the irony that as corrup as Orson Welle's character was, he was correct about the murder.


Jessica - Jul 29, 2004 7:13:01 am PDT #1585 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

As for Touch of Evil, I think that it's a movie easier to love if you read Cahiers du Cinema than if you don't. It is often hard to love a movie if its appeal lies only in form and revolutionariness.

Well...I was a film major, so using myself as an example doesn't really disprove this, except that I love Touch of Evil on a totally gut level. I'd probably love it on an analytical level too, if I ever bothered to try, but my reactions to it were entirely of the "Hot damn, this is good" variety.


kat perez - Jul 29, 2004 7:13:54 am PDT #1586 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I think Forrest Gump was the movie where Gary Sinise first revealed that, although he is not bald, practically every wig put on him during the course of a movie makes him look like he is.

Ok. That made me laugh out loud and startle my office mates. See, I have a Gary Sinise thing and I thought he was hot even with the bad Lt. Dan wig.


JZ - Jul 29, 2004 7:27:23 am PDT #1587 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Well...I was a film major, so using myself as an example doesn't really disprove this, except that I love Touch of Evil on a totally gut level. I'd probably love it on an analytical level too, if I ever bothered to try, but my reactions to it were entirely of the "Hot damn, this is good" variety.

Not in the least a film major, and this was exactly my reaction. A big visceral filmgasm, the movie-viewing equivalent of Deb's reaction to Joyce's Ulysses. I love that it actually stands up to thoughtful analysis, that it's full of meat and guts and spicy brains, but all of that is secondary to the filmgasm it gives me.