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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2004 6:36:15 pm PDT #1334 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Revenge of the Sith."

Oh please. Months before it opens, the title will be changed to Return of the Sith.

So I finally saw The Butterfly Effect, which really yearns to be the darkest, most disturbing, most depraved thing you've ever seen. Sexual abuse? Check! Cruelty to animals? Check! People accidentally getting blown up? Check! It's a fucked up movie about fucked up people in a fucked up world.

It takes a looooong time actually getting to any time travel because it has to set up all possible points to jump back to. And then, like clockwork, Ashton jumps back to change something, and ends up fucking something else up even worse. Lather, rinse, repeat. Someone like me? I can take it at face value and just be slightly horrified. I think a lot of you, on the other hand, can view this as a comedy and just laugh and laugh as Ashton fucks things up even more horribly.

It's cool in its own way, though for all its pretensions of having to do with chaos theory, a viewing of the chaos theory featurette actually proves it doesn't explore it at all. The butterfly effect has to do with insignificant events, and Ashton is quite clearly going back to affect very significant events. But still, it's interesting to consider the implications of the concept. And the director's cut ending is rather reminiscent of another time-travel movie we've discussed recently.

So yeah. It's not awful, and it's kind of fun in a really fucked up kind of way.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2004 6:39:39 pm PDT #1335 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Yet another brave movie soldier takes one for the team.

I can't say I had any even remote interest in butterfly effect 'cause something about Ashton K makes me irrationally violent. Josh Hartnett has the same effect. But now? Nevah.

Dude. Thanks. Yur my hero.


Kate P. - Jul 24, 2004 7:08:50 pm PDT #1336 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

So I finally saw The Butterfly Effect, which really yearns to be the darkest, most disturbing, most depraved thing you've ever seen. Sexual abuse? Check! Cruelty to animals? Check! People accidentally getting blown up? Check!

Ah. So, much like The Cell, then? Good to know that's another one I don't have to see.


Invisible Green - Jul 24, 2004 7:20:50 pm PDT #1337 of 10001

Mal's going to meet Patience to sell the cargo he retreived, and Jayne sights his rifle on Mal's head.

I've never thought about that scene like that before.

Saw Bourne Supremacy. Want a 50-year ban on all use of hand-held cameras in non-documentary movies.

Isn't Serenity being filmed hand-held?


Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2004 7:28:32 pm PDT #1338 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, much like The Cell, then? Good to know that's another one I don't have to see.

Haven't seen that one, but I hear there's a mutilated horse. Woo!

I've never thought about that scene like that before.

Huh? How did you think about it? In one scene, Jayne asks Dobson if helping him means turning on the captain, and a couple scenes later, he's got him in his sights.


tommyrot - Jul 24, 2004 7:33:05 pm PDT #1339 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Haven't seen that one, but I hear there's a mutilated horse. Woo!

It has got to be the most creative and artsy horse-mutilation scene ever.


Kate P. - Jul 24, 2004 7:44:38 pm PDT #1340 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Artsy, yes, and also really gross and awful. The only reason I didn't walk out of The Cell is because the friends I'd gone with were into it and I hadn't brought a book with which to occupy myself while waiting for them in the lobby. I really strongly disliked that movie.


Atropa - Jul 24, 2004 8:16:52 pm PDT #1341 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Ah. So, much like The Cell, then? Good to know that's another one I don't have to see.

Much about The Cell causes me to roll my eyes or twitch, but the art direction of that movie is stunning. Yes, everything is really fucked up, but it's preeeeeety (in a disturbing, 'yep, crazy person!' sort of way, I will admit).


tommyrot - Jul 24, 2004 8:17:56 pm PDT #1342 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

To me, The Cell didn't really add up to much--but yes, very pretty.


Beverly - Jul 24, 2004 10:42:25 pm PDT #1343 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Kate! My sistah! The only reason I didn't leave the theatre at Two Brothers is because my ride was into the movie. I sat in the lobby and read the book I'd brought. The friends I'd gone with were distraught. I had hurled so much invective at the screen and was beyond keeping it below a whisper, so I left. I enjoyed my book, and so did my blood pressure.

Now I realize Two Brothers is nowhere near the 'artistic' level of the other movie, but your reaction struck a chord nonetheless.