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'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2005 9:45:32 am PDT #9976 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm so phenomenally frustrated with the nit picks.

Sorry but it jerked me out of the story. I don't expect them to file the same paperwork as the FBI but a unit specializing in whackass crimes and profiling would know the difference between a serial killer and a spree killer.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:03 am PDT #9977 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't expect them to file the same paperwork as the FBI but a unit specializing in whackass crimes and profiling would know the difference between a serial killer and a spree killer.

Oh! They should have a Sweet Tart killer and a Skittles killer too.


Kristen - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:09 am PDT #9978 of 10001

if I'm left staring at the screen wondering why they're all flocking, I'm missing the potential impact of the scared little girl and being snapped out of the story.

I don't really consider that a "nit." It's a question about the way the story is being told.

To me, a nit is more like, being distracted by Rebecca's hair or why they took a guy to Cedars or why is Web writing with a yellow pen. YNMV.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:14 am PDT #9979 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What I am wondering is, is the show so infested with nits that the great haircut doesn't matter because we're too busy scratching the bastards?

Not for me. The characters are very compelling to me and I haven't really seen this story being told before. Despite all the many comparisons to other cop procedurals and Silence of the Lambs and LA Confidential - this is really Minearverse stuff. The only parallels I've seen were in the darker Angel eps where Wesley was kidnapping babies and keeping people in cages.


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:30 am PDT #9980 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I am wondering is, is the show so infested with nits that the great haircut doesn't matter because we're too busy scratching the bastards?

Are people saying the show is bad because of the nits? That they can't enjoy the show because of the nits?

Everyone has their threshold that balances effect/potential/errors and what they think is good, and what they think is enjoyable.

I'm obviously not reading as much viewer reaction as you are ... but people like to pick nits. And people like to gush. Not always the same people, but there it is.

I can't harsh on someone because they don't think the themes are being expressed well, or that the themes are boring. That's just what they think.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:36 am PDT #9981 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Web is writing with a yellow pen? Web would never write with a yellow pen!!


Nutty - Jun 23, 2005 9:49:10 am PDT #9982 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

phenomenally frustrated with the nit picks

I think that nitpicking is a lot harder to justify in an avowedly unreal world, like a world that has vampires. In the first 5-10 episodes, you literally can't nitpick (except for internal consistency), and have to sit back and wait for the rules to be expounded to you.

Whereas, in a TV show that takes place at least nominally in the real world, you've got expectations. I remember weeks of ranting, in the first season of 24, about the logic-mistakes and gross misrepresentations of CIA procedures. (Including my own.) Then after a while, it became clear that this wasn't a real world, and what the rules of this not-quite-real world were.

On a TV show that involves the FBI, I begin with the expectation of fulfilling, at least nominally, the standards of FBI procedure. After a while I may become able to forgive the show for not obeying a pre-existing set of rules, but I can't come to that point until I'm clear whether the rule-difference is intentional or just a set of sloppy mistakes.

So, the nitpicking is to be expected, I would think.


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:50:38 am PDT #9983 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't really consider that a "nit."

It was the one that Allyson cited, though. If Allyson's pissed about people complaining about pen colours or hairstyles, then I take most of it back. That's weird and annoying.


Kristen - Jun 23, 2005 9:52:33 am PDT #9984 of 10001

It was the one that Allyson cited, though.

No, I know. I'm just not sure I agree with her that it's a nit.

If Allyson's pissed about people complaining about pen colours or hairstyles, then I take most of it back. That's weird and annoying.

Yeah. One of these days, she's gonna turn around and slug me.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:53:30 am PDT #9985 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, no one knows the song when Marty's breaking into the VCU?