Web is writing with a yellow pen? Web would never write with a yellow pen!!
You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.
River ,'Objects In Space'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:36 am PDT #9981 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Nutty - Jun 23, 2005 9:49:10 am PDT #9982 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
phenomenally frustrated with the nit picks
I think that nitpicking is a lot harder to justify in an avowedly unreal world, like a world that has vampires. In the first 5-10 episodes, you literally can't nitpick (except for internal consistency), and have to sit back and wait for the rules to be expounded to you.
Whereas, in a TV show that takes place at least nominally in the real world, you've got expectations. I remember weeks of ranting, in the first season of 24, about the logic-mistakes and gross misrepresentations of CIA procedures. (Including my own.) Then after a while, it became clear that this wasn't a real world, and what the rules of this not-quite-real world were.
On a TV show that involves the FBI, I begin with the expectation of fulfilling, at least nominally, the standards of FBI procedure. After a while I may become able to forgive the show for not obeying a pre-existing set of rules, but I can't come to that point until I'm clear whether the rule-difference is intentional or just a set of sloppy mistakes.
So, the nitpicking is to be expected, I would think.
§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:50:38 am PDT #9983 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't really consider that a "nit."
It was the one that Allyson cited, though. If Allyson's pissed about people complaining about pen colours or hairstyles, then I take most of it back. That's weird and annoying.
Kristen - Jun 23, 2005 9:52:33 am PDT #9984 of 10001
It was the one that Allyson cited, though.
No, I know. I'm just not sure I agree with her that it's a nit.
If Allyson's pissed about people complaining about pen colours or hairstyles, then I take most of it back. That's weird and annoying.
Yeah. One of these days, she's gonna turn around and slug me.
Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:53:30 am PDT #9985 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
So, no one knows the song when Marty's breaking into the VCU?
BartlebyFink - Jun 23, 2005 9:54:12 am PDT #9986 of 10001
One Hot Burrito!
[For me, the themes weigh more than whether all four of them would be at the front door or spread out.]
Can't do the quoting-ness of it all, but I heartedly agree with Allyson. Even if there are things that any number of us would like to see or to change, this show is all about - I think Tim said - the moments. Who cares if they all went to the door at the same time? I just thought that looked really cool. Four different people, four different approaches to the door and four different attitudes to what might be on the other side. For me, that moment was as much about four people who, despite their histories and ideals, come together as a single functioning unit. Whether that is just solid teamwork or for some devil-y, Web-benefiting purpose has yet to be seen. For me, that is one of the many moments I'm coming back for.
§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:54:38 am PDT #9987 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
On a TV show that involves the FBI, I begin with the expectation of fulfilling, at least nominally, the standards of FBI procedure.
I admit I don't know the real FBI standards. My FBI knowledge comes from The X-Files and Profiler, and the like (why am I coming up so dry on other shows?). I have never had a bar of reality set for FBI on TV.
Her post doesn't cite a specific nit.
You're not counting "whether all four of them would be at the front door or spread out" as a citation, or as a nit?
Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:55:15 am PDT #9988 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
You're not counting "whether all four of them would be at the front door or spread out" as a citation, or as a nit?
Yeah, I went back and saw that afterward. I was looking for a quotation. Oops.
§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:57:16 am PDT #9989 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
that moment was as much about four people who, despite their histories and ideals, come together as a single functioning unit
But, see, if you think the behaviour was nonsensical, it's not good teamwork, and it's not a functioning unit. So I was left wondering if these people work together often, and where Paul (first to come out of low ready gun position) is aiming that gun, because it sure looks like it's at the head of whoever's opening the door, and am I really supposed to think they're good at their jobs.
Meta-wise, I know not. But I did have to take a moment and edit response.
Which leans towards Kristen's assertion that it's not a nit. But I'm sure the people who don't like Web's pen colour think it's really important too, and perhaps not a nit either.
BartlebyFink - Jun 23, 2005 9:57:23 am PDT #9990 of 10001
One Hot Burrito!
The team's FBI standard aren't neccessarily those of every other show's. They are a new division (for TV at least), they can do whatever they want. Besides, we know that Locke wasn't really FBI material...Web got her through it for his own endgame. That's how I see the team's procedures anyway.