The money was too good. I got stupid.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Jun 23, 2005 8:34:05 am PDT #9972 of 10001

Mine, however, is integral to the success of the show.

After mine.

Of course.


Allyson - Jun 23, 2005 9:34:45 am PDT #9973 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm so phenomenally frustrated with the nit picks. It all just sounds very, "Buffy couldn't run in those shoes!" "You can't strangle a vampire!" "That bird wouldn't know a snowy owl from a volvo!"

It's sort of fun to pick the nits and laugh, but for some reason, it just sounds like cranky bitching to me. For me, the themes weigh more than whether all four of them would be at the front door or spread out.


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:38:00 am PDT #9974 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the themes weigh more than whether all four of them would be at the front door or spread out

I'm not going to ask for real-world realism (since I know not of it), and I accept that pragmatism will be sacrificed cheerily for the themes or emotion, but fact is -- if I'm left staring at the screen wondering why they're all flocking, I'm missing the potential impact of the scared little girl and being snapped out of the story.

That doesn't do anyone any good, and neither does pretending it didn't happen.


Allyson - Jun 23, 2005 9:44:58 am PDT #9975 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

That doesn't do anyone any good, and neither does pretending it didn't happen.

This I am not suggesting. What I am wondering is, is the show so infested with nits that the great haircut doesn't matter because we're too busy scratching the bastards?

Snowy owl broke me out of the story, so I get it. Not so much that the themes weren't interesting or it made the entire episode crap.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2005 9:45:32 am PDT #9976 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm so phenomenally frustrated with the nit picks.

Sorry but it jerked me out of the story. I don't expect them to file the same paperwork as the FBI but a unit specializing in whackass crimes and profiling would know the difference between a serial killer and a spree killer.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:03 am PDT #9977 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't expect them to file the same paperwork as the FBI but a unit specializing in whackass crimes and profiling would know the difference between a serial killer and a spree killer.

Oh! They should have a Sweet Tart killer and a Skittles killer too.


Kristen - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:09 am PDT #9978 of 10001

if I'm left staring at the screen wondering why they're all flocking, I'm missing the potential impact of the scared little girl and being snapped out of the story.

I don't really consider that a "nit." It's a question about the way the story is being told.

To me, a nit is more like, being distracted by Rebecca's hair or why they took a guy to Cedars or why is Web writing with a yellow pen. YNMV.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:14 am PDT #9979 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What I am wondering is, is the show so infested with nits that the great haircut doesn't matter because we're too busy scratching the bastards?

Not for me. The characters are very compelling to me and I haven't really seen this story being told before. Despite all the many comparisons to other cop procedurals and Silence of the Lambs and LA Confidential - this is really Minearverse stuff. The only parallels I've seen were in the darker Angel eps where Wesley was kidnapping babies and keeping people in cages.


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:30 am PDT #9980 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I am wondering is, is the show so infested with nits that the great haircut doesn't matter because we're too busy scratching the bastards?

Are people saying the show is bad because of the nits? That they can't enjoy the show because of the nits?

Everyone has their threshold that balances effect/potential/errors and what they think is good, and what they think is enjoyable.

I'm obviously not reading as much viewer reaction as you are ... but people like to pick nits. And people like to gush. Not always the same people, but there it is.

I can't harsh on someone because they don't think the themes are being expressed well, or that the themes are boring. That's just what they think.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 9:48:36 am PDT #9981 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Web is writing with a yellow pen? Web would never write with a yellow pen!!