No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 3:58:00 pm PDT #9594 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In a character driven drama, though, how much detachment can you get? Especially from a rookie who may have failed her psych test and a guy appointed conscience?

For me, procedurals leave the investigator drama out. I never dreamt Tim ever meant to do that, ever.


David M - Jun 17, 2005 4:11:04 pm PDT #9595 of 10001
Putting the plain in plainclothes.

The blue gloves were last episode and while they could be standard issue I prefer to see them as a Firefly reference.

Speaking of which, was anyone else reminded of the Alliance interviewing the Serenity crew when they were interviewing the assistants of the murdered women?


JenP - Jun 17, 2005 4:17:27 pm PDT #9596 of 10001

Speaking of which, was anyone else reminded of the Alliance interviewing the Serenity crew when they were interviewing the assistants of the murdered women?

Yes. Loved that bit, too. Especially the male assistant and his eagerness to dish.


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2005 4:57:32 pm PDT #9597 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Tim's been iconified by our very own Partyman.


Cashmere - Jun 17, 2005 4:59:02 pm PDT #9598 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

For me, procedurals leave the investigator drama out. I never dreamt Tim ever meant to do that, ever.

Good point. I'm sitting here trying to think of a way to delve deeply into characters while still maintaining detachment and not coming up with very much.


Deena - Jun 17, 2005 5:38:13 pm PDT #9599 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

They did look like they were trying to appear detached when they were questioning the assistants of the women who died, up until the anal, anyway. That was very funny.


DCJensen - Jun 17, 2005 5:50:21 pm PDT #9600 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I don't see the handcuffing as assault. His expectations were that he was seducing her, and she was responding. She was in his sex room, and she wasn't frightened by his tools of the trade.

Two things could have happened, in his expectations: First, she could have responded positivly and they would have gone a little further, and maybe took a moment and established a safe word. The second possibilty to him was if she had continued to say no, he might have even taken them off and apologized as misreading her. Maybe he would have inferred for her to think about it and come back when she was ready.

But as Arlo Guthre might have said "there was a third possibility that he hadn't even counted upon." That she would immediately go into real freak out and he would have to try and deal with that, or not deal well with it.

In his mind all the signals were there, and he probably expected one or another outcome. How could he expect the third?

ETA: Numberslut!

You can get anything you want at S&M Restaurant....


Trudy Booth - Jun 17, 2005 8:13:14 pm PDT #9601 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm not an expert (much to my dismay) and I could be wrong, but my understanding is that selecting a safe word is pretty much Step A. At the very least it happens well before anyone puts anyone in cuffs.

Assuming that's the case, it's a pretty bright line. Flirting or not, without a safe word he didn't have consent to cuff her.


Astarte - Jun 17, 2005 8:14:10 pm PDT #9602 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Danny's doesn't seem to exhibit any emotionally broken behavior-

Danny desperately wants to be someone else. I still see him as a transvestite.

That may just be my private amusement, but it's a hella fun one.


Astarte - Jun 17, 2005 8:18:30 pm PDT #9603 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

This former dilettante understands it the same way, Trudy.