Jayne: There's times I think you don't take me seriously. I think that ought to change. Mal: Do you think it's likely to?

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Nutty - Jun 17, 2005 4:43:50 am PDT #9406 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I chained Angel to a bed because he was potentially murdering in his sleep.

If I recall correctly, much of season 2 was about Angel being a big ole creepy sex freak, in his dreams. Which only makes you wonder, if you know you're gonna sleep-walk, and you know you're having bad dreams (or, not-dreams) involving your ex, why would you sleep naked?

Dude needed some nice flannel jammies.


brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 4:52:47 am PDT #9407 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I felt the show provided a very balanced perspective, if anything, went a bit heavy on scolding poor, judgmental Paul.

Eh, I don't really agree. If you'll notice, Rebecca's scolding of Paul was along the lines of "you don't know what happened to them to make them that way." It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma. Cole had a nice jab though when he pointed out that in judging him, Paul was also judging the vics.

I'll be glad next week when we get off the poor lonely vulnerable single women, too.


Cashmere - Jun 17, 2005 4:54:03 am PDT #9408 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Cash, this is not so - I thought Mark Fish had written it, and then looked it up and saw Jane E., and doubted myself. But you are right, it did have some Jane-ish bits. In the middle of the episode I said, "I must go look up this Mark Fish person. I like his writing."

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't even see the writing credits--just Jane in the co-executive producer credit and thought, "did she write this, too?" I was making assumptions based on the dialog.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 17, 2005 4:58:51 am PDT #9409 of 10001
What is even happening?

It would be interesting to hear if Jane contributed that line of dialogue in the war room, or somewhere along in the process. I trust the Buffista sniffer for certain things, and an ear for ME alumni wordsmithing is one of them.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 5:20:17 am PDT #9410 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I felt the show provided a very balanced perspective, if anything, went a bit heavy on scolding poor, judgmental Paul.

Eh, I don't really agree. If you'll notice, Rebecca's scolding of Paul was along the lines of "you don't know what happened to them to make them that way." It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma.

Yes, this. While the episode didn't portray S&M as badly as usually happens in TV, it still fell into the "people who are into S&M are fucked-up, yo!" trap.

And Rebecca's last line pissed me off so badly that I threw my remote at the TV.


Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 5:33:06 am PDT #9411 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

If you'll notice, Rebecca's scolding of Paul was along the lines of "you don't know what happened to them to make them that way."

But Rebecca interprets everything from that perspective. She's got hidden trauma, therefore, she understands everyone else's.

It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma.

I can't think of anyone for whom pointing something like that out would have been in character. It would have felt very false and after-school-specialy to me.

I liked that the BDSM turned out to be mostly irrelevant to the case, because it meant that everything that was assumed about the women and their relationship to Brandt was wrong.


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2005 5:39:36 am PDT #9412 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also. I liked TOGoM. I liked it for ridiculous reasons. But still.

I liked it too.

(the way the poster suggests, with allusions to safe words and blah blah lifestyle blah.)

The only safe word reference I can think of was when Faith tried to strangle Xander, and Angel asked her, "What, he forgot the safe word?" But that was on Buffy.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 5:40:22 am PDT #9413 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

But Rebecca interprets everything from that perspective. She's got hidden trauma, therefore, she understands everyone else's.

I really tried to keep reminding myself that -- she's SO damaged that she views everything through the lens of being a victim (I did like Paul busting her for making "Victim" such a significant part of her identity).

It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma.

I can't think of anyone for whom pointing something like that out would have been in character. It would have felt very false and after-school-specialy to me.

I think just a really understated comment from Creepy Bossman (can't remember his name) would have been in character. Because I got the sense, during the reenactment, that he knew that S&M =/ sexual violence.


Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 5:46:30 am PDT #9414 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

My take on Web is that he wants his team as ignorant and judgemental as he can keep them, the better to exploit their weaknesses.


Scrappy - Jun 17, 2005 5:50:33 am PDT #9415 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Has anyone mentioned how amazing Hart Bochner was in the ep. Really impressive. I saw that Tim wrote it for him, and it was a great combination of writer/actor. I also LOVED Coyote in the whole reenactment scene. He underplays, but with a lot of compelling hidden stuff going on, so it's impossible to take your eyes off him.