Angel: You know, I killed my actual dad. It was one of the first things I did when I became a vampire. Wesley: I hardly see how that's the same situation. Angel: Yeah. I didn't really think that one through.

'Lineage'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 5:20:17 am PDT #9410 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I felt the show provided a very balanced perspective, if anything, went a bit heavy on scolding poor, judgmental Paul.

Eh, I don't really agree. If you'll notice, Rebecca's scolding of Paul was along the lines of "you don't know what happened to them to make them that way." It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma.

Yes, this. While the episode didn't portray S&M as badly as usually happens in TV, it still fell into the "people who are into S&M are fucked-up, yo!" trap.

And Rebecca's last line pissed me off so badly that I threw my remote at the TV.


Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 5:33:06 am PDT #9411 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

If you'll notice, Rebecca's scolding of Paul was along the lines of "you don't know what happened to them to make them that way."

But Rebecca interprets everything from that perspective. She's got hidden trauma, therefore, she understands everyone else's.

It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma.

I can't think of anyone for whom pointing something like that out would have been in character. It would have felt very false and after-school-specialy to me.

I liked that the BDSM turned out to be mostly irrelevant to the case, because it meant that everything that was assumed about the women and their relationship to Brandt was wrong.


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2005 5:39:36 am PDT #9412 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also. I liked TOGoM. I liked it for ridiculous reasons. But still.

I liked it too.

(the way the poster suggests, with allusions to safe words and blah blah lifestyle blah.)

The only safe word reference I can think of was when Faith tried to strangle Xander, and Angel asked her, "What, he forgot the safe word?" But that was on Buffy.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 5:40:22 am PDT #9413 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

But Rebecca interprets everything from that perspective. She's got hidden trauma, therefore, she understands everyone else's.

I really tried to keep reminding myself that -- she's SO damaged that she views everything through the lens of being a victim (I did like Paul busting her for making "Victim" such a significant part of her identity).

It would've been nice to see some acknowledgment that an attraction to S&M doesn't necessarily imply some hidden trauma.

I can't think of anyone for whom pointing something like that out would have been in character. It would have felt very false and after-school-specialy to me.

I think just a really understated comment from Creepy Bossman (can't remember his name) would have been in character. Because I got the sense, during the reenactment, that he knew that S&M =/ sexual violence.


Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 5:46:30 am PDT #9414 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

My take on Web is that he wants his team as ignorant and judgemental as he can keep them, the better to exploit their weaknesses.


Scrappy - Jun 17, 2005 5:50:33 am PDT #9415 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Has anyone mentioned how amazing Hart Bochner was in the ep. Really impressive. I saw that Tim wrote it for him, and it was a great combination of writer/actor. I also LOVED Coyote in the whole reenactment scene. He underplays, but with a lot of compelling hidden stuff going on, so it's impossible to take your eyes off him.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 5:52:39 am PDT #9416 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Has anyone mentioned how amazing Hart Bochner was in the ep.

Er....who was he?


Scrappy - Jun 17, 2005 5:53:17 am PDT #9417 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Brandt.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 5:53:49 am PDT #9418 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Brandt.

Smirky dom guy?


Scrappy - Jun 17, 2005 5:55:39 am PDT #9419 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, bad guy who becomes victim.