The mysteries their trying to solve aren't so much the crime of the week as the larger mysteries of their own characters, and their place in the cosmic plan.
There's a cosmic plan?
I didn't create the troll. I didn't date the troll. In fact I hate the troll. I helped deflate the troll-- All done.
Willow ,'Potential'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Allyson - Jun 16, 2005 1:36:46 pm PDT #9306 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Atropa - Jun 16, 2005 1:40:13 pm PDT #9307 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
There's a cosmic plan?
Yes, and it can be yours for the low price of $19.95 a month!(Cosmic Plan contract lasts from signing until end of the world. Side effects may include paranoia, bouts of existential dread, and zombies. Results not typical.)
Daisy Jane - Jun 16, 2005 1:41:36 pm PDT #9308 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
Now, why would that be. Because the episode was about it? Was it handled in a way that made it seem so?
Let's say I write a story or article about cheating on one's spouse, and played out according to the needs of the story or facts, I don't make any "cheating bad!" moralizations. Does that mean I want to cheat on my husband? Or does the fact that I wrote the thing at all mean that?
Kiba Rika - Jun 16, 2005 1:47:39 pm PDT #9309 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
My question is... why does it MATTER? (This may be because I'm in a production of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.) But in this specific circumstance, what I mean is - who, besides Tim and any potential partners, cares about Tim's bedroom (or other locale, should he and his partner(s) so choose) habits? Apparently, people do care. But then the question becomes - why?
I, for one, really appreciated that the episode balanced both views on S&M quite well. (Though, and it made me happy, it seemed to be more in the "What people want to do is THEIR business, not yours" school.)
brenda m - Jun 16, 2005 1:48:35 pm PDT #9310 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
Now, why would that be. Because the episode was about it? Was it handled in a way that made it seem so?
Frankly I had some, um, issues with the way it was handled that certainly don't lead me to that conclusion.
Strega - Jun 16, 2005 1:50:19 pm PDT #9311 of 10001
I totally understand how irritating it is to see people criticizing your work for things that aren't even accurate. When you can see the point, but disagree, it's one thing, but when it's something that just isn't true, it's maddening. And knowing that trying to point that out will just waste your time makes it that much more frustrating. Words can't convey how much I understand that.
And it wouldn't surprise me if I've done it. I really try not to, but... there are a few things I've said in recaps that make me cringe now, although they never seem to be things other people notice.
I've gotten a headache while trying to make it clear that this part isn't connected to the previous, and I can't think any more, so if it sounds that way, I apologize. Unrelated: I can see why you'd believe
they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too,but I honestly don't think it's accurate (in a couple of ways). I think the voices you disagree with tend to echo, so I get how that happens, but it's a shame you got that impression.
Kevin - Jun 16, 2005 1:50:45 pm PDT #9312 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Tim is into beagles and writes about them all the time. Evidence!
Kiba Rika - Jun 16, 2005 1:55:20 pm PDT #9313 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
Also, why are we (read: they) proposing that Tim is into S&M but leaving Jane (she wrote this episode, no?) completely out of it? More than one person took part in this creative process.
Kristen - Jun 16, 2005 1:57:07 pm PDT #9314 of 10001
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
But not as much as he really wants to rip someone's face off.
Anyway...I do quibble with this:
they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too
I gotta say, TWOP was home to one of the most active and fervent groups of FF fans. Period. They spent a lot of time and money and energy trying to help save the show.
Plus I think they were a key element that led to the whole War of the Banner Ads. For that alone, they deserve our appreciation.
ETA: I cannot speak on their love (or lack therof for WF or Angel). I don't really remember.
Kristen - Jun 16, 2005 1:59:27 pm PDT #9315 of 10001
she wrote this episode, no?
No, it was Mark Fish.