Also, why are we (read: they) proposing that Tim is into S&M but leaving Jane (she wrote this episode, no?) completely out of it? More than one person took part in this creative process.
I am a large, semi-muscular man. I can take it. Don't hide behind Mal 'cause you know he'll shoot it down for you. Tell me.
Wash ,'War Stories'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Kiba Rika - Jun 16, 2005 1:55:20 pm PDT #9313 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
Kristen - Jun 16, 2005 1:57:07 pm PDT #9314 of 10001
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
But not as much as he really wants to rip someone's face off.
Anyway...I do quibble with this:
they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too
I gotta say, TWOP was home to one of the most active and fervent groups of FF fans. Period. They spent a lot of time and money and energy trying to help save the show.
Plus I think they were a key element that led to the whole War of the Banner Ads. For that alone, they deserve our appreciation.
ETA: I cannot speak on their love (or lack therof for WF or Angel). I don't really remember.
Kristen - Jun 16, 2005 1:59:27 pm PDT #9315 of 10001
she wrote this episode, no?
No, it was Mark Fish.
Kevin - Jun 16, 2005 1:59:36 pm PDT #9316 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
My new favourite quote about TI of the evening:
"If they start focusing on developing the characters it could be a really good series."
Errrrrrrrrm.
I do sometimes wonder if I watch the same thing as other people.
Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 2:02:43 pm PDT #9317 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I cannot speak on their love (or lack therof for WF or Angel). I don't really remember.
There's definitely a lot of love for Angel. TWoP (excepting Pamie) loved the hell out of the WF pilot and then hated the fuck out of it afterward. It was one reason I was glad to discover b.org, which had more than two or three people who still loved it.
Kiba Rika - Jun 16, 2005 2:03:20 pm PDT #9318 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
No, it was Mark Fish.
That's what I thought I saw in the credits and then I second-guessed myself and checked the interweb. Now I feel slightly less crazy. Thank you, Kristen! (That is a real thank you and not a sarcastic thank you. The internet makes me feel a need to clarify these things.)
Kristen - Jun 16, 2005 2:04:54 pm PDT #9319 of 10001
Okay, now that you mention it, I do seem to recall that Pamie hated WF.
Morgana - Jun 16, 2005 2:05:00 pm PDT #9320 of 10001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Just a drive-by, mostly non-related comment:
I second Polter-Cow's motion that the "just kidding, I'm really gonna kill myself, not you" moment be retired as an overused TV cliche.
Not just TV, movies too. I caught it at the end of Tomb Raider 2: Let's Make Another Crappy Tomb Raider Movie the other day (my mom was flipping channels).
Actually, Laura shot what's-his-name at the end of the move. He didn't shoot himself. (I can't remember the character's name...wait... I think it was Terry Sheridan. Damn my brain cells that can remember all sorts of useless trivia, but can't be depended upon to retain the stuff employers value. Anyway, he was played by Gerard Butler, aka "The Phantom of the Opera." Looks mighty fine in tight pants and a cape.) (This message brought to you by Morgana's overactive hormones. Sorry.)
Kiba Rika - Jun 16, 2005 2:07:19 pm PDT #9321 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
Anyway, he was played by Gerard Butler, aka "The Phantom of the Opera."
Restraining the Michael Crawford fangirl within.... There, I beat her down. Good deal.
Proceed!
(By the way, my family's beagle ate me yesterday. Really. She started with my ears, and before I knew it, I was being digested. She's so cute! Curse her.)
Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 2:07:38 pm PDT #9322 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Okay, now that you mention it, I do seem to recall that Pamie hated WF.
It was quite the fiery hate and utter disdain, it was.
Actually, Laura shot what's-his-name at the end of the move. He didn't shoot himself.
Oh, well, I didn't have a clue what was going on in that scene, but it looked like he was holding the gun, so that's where my conclusion came from. Hell, I thought it was the end of Beyond Borders at first.