Mal ,'Ariel'
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
Now, why would that be. Because the episode was about it? Was it handled in a way that made it seem so?
Let's say I write a story or article about cheating on one's spouse, and played out according to the needs of the story or facts, I don't make any "cheating bad!" moralizations. Does that mean I want to cheat on my husband? Or does the fact that I wrote the thing at all mean that?
My question is... why does it MATTER? (This may be because I'm in a production of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.) But in this specific circumstance, what I mean is - who, besides Tim and any potential partners, cares about Tim's bedroom (or other locale, should he and his partner(s) so choose) habits? Apparently, people do care. But then the question becomes - why?
I, for one, really appreciated that the episode balanced both views on S&M quite well. (Though, and it made me happy, it seemed to be more in the "What people want to do is THEIR business, not yours" school.)
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
Now, why would that be. Because the episode was about it? Was it handled in a way that made it seem so?
Frankly I had some, um, issues with the way it was handled that certainly don't lead me to that conclusion.
I totally understand how irritating it is to see people criticizing your work for things that aren't even accurate. When you can see the point, but disagree, it's one thing, but when it's something that just isn't true, it's maddening. And knowing that trying to point that out will just waste your time makes it that much more frustrating. Words can't convey how much I understand that.
And it wouldn't surprise me if I've done it. I really try not to, but... there are a few things I've said in recaps that make me cringe now, although they never seem to be things other people notice.
I've gotten a headache while trying to make it clear that this part isn't connected to the previous, and I can't think any more, so if it sounds that way, I apologize. Unrelated: I can see why you'd believe
they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too,but I honestly don't think it's accurate (in a couple of ways). I think the voices you disagree with tend to echo, so I get how that happens, but it's a shame you got that impression.
Tim is into beagles and writes about them all the time. Evidence!
Also, why are we (read: they) proposing that Tim is into S&M but leaving Jane (she wrote this episode, no?) completely out of it? More than one person took part in this creative process.
Tim is either into it or really wants to be.
But not as much as he really wants to rip someone's face off.
Anyway...I do quibble with this:
they hated Angel, Firefly and Wonderfalls, too
I gotta say, TWOP was home to one of the most active and fervent groups of FF fans. Period. They spent a lot of time and money and energy trying to help save the show.
Plus I think they were a key element that led to the whole War of the Banner Ads. For that alone, they deserve our appreciation.
ETA: I cannot speak on their love (or lack therof for WF or Angel). I don't really remember.
she wrote this episode, no?
No, it was Mark Fish.
My new favourite quote about TI of the evening:
"If they start focusing on developing the characters it could be a really good series."
Errrrrrrrrm.
I do sometimes wonder if I watch the same thing as other people.
I cannot speak on their love (or lack therof for WF or Angel). I don't really remember.
There's definitely a lot of love for Angel. TWoP (excepting Pamie) loved the hell out of the WF pilot and then hated the fuck out of it afterward. It was one reason I was glad to discover b.org, which had more than two or three people who still loved it.