Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Polter-Cow - Jun 13, 2005 11:55:55 am PDT #8813 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But no, I haven't done anything like that. Which is probably a very good thing. Erin did an Alias commentary, so maybe that's the source of confusion.

Yeah, that's what I figured she was confused about. That commentary was pretty entertaining, though. You should totally do one.


JenP - Jun 13, 2005 12:09:50 pm PDT #8814 of 10001

Waitaminnit, Jen, I had that tag first!

Ack!! My bad, my bad. I will switch, as is only right, though you are gracious to offer to share. Also - smonster! Hi!

OK, change tag, then catch up with other posts...


JZ - Jun 13, 2005 12:11:10 pm PDT #8815 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

It saddens me to report that I actually remember this, but:

Yes, the same actor who played Donna Martin's abusive boyfriend, but nope, playing a different character. The Heights was a definite attempt by Fox to copy its own success and grab the 90210 audience for another night, and the cast included some actors who'd appeared before on Fox shows, but it was its own little 'verse, unconnected to 90210.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:12:02 pm PDT #8816 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Hee. 90210 questions, just what I needed to distract me from writing cover letters.

Ray was Donna Martin's abusive boyfriend, who then went onto the Heights, which had terrible ratings, they thought because most people couldn't deal with the fact that he'd thrown Rose Princess Donna down the stairs. So, they breifly brought him back to say he'd been in counseling and was really really sorry.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:18 pm PDT #8817 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

The Heights was a definite attempt by Fox to copy its own success and grab the 90210 audience for another night, and the cast included some actors who'd appeared before on Fox shows, but it was its own little 'verse, unconnected to 90210.

Also true, though I never watched the Heights.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:22 pm PDT #8818 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

he'd thrown Rose Princess Donna down the stairs.

oh, was that the excuse for all of the plastic surgery?


JZ - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:34 pm PDT #8819 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Wow. I'm so wrong, then.

t slinks away in Spelling-trivia-failure shame


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:59 pm PDT #8820 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Only if she'd had it on her forearm.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:16:15 pm PDT #8821 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

No, you're not wrong JZ. I don't think he was supposed to be "Ray" on The Heights. I never watched it though, but it seems doubtful they'd give the abuser a spin-off. They just didn't think people would have a problem with the guy.

He got comments at concerts too.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:17:14 pm PDT #8822 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, when your main audience is 14-18 years old, sometimes they have a problem separating fantasy from reality. "OMG he looked in my general direction, he totally likes me!"