I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:16:15 pm PDT #8821 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

No, you're not wrong JZ. I don't think he was supposed to be "Ray" on The Heights. I never watched it though, but it seems doubtful they'd give the abuser a spin-off. They just didn't think people would have a problem with the guy.

He got comments at concerts too.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:17:14 pm PDT #8822 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, when your main audience is 14-18 years old, sometimes they have a problem separating fantasy from reality. "OMG he looked in my general direction, he totally likes me!"


JZ - Jun 13, 2005 12:19:38 pm PDT #8823 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ha ha, no! IMDB vindicates me, and says his character name on The Heights was Alex!

And now, it saddens me that I am so elated by this.

But, yeah, I think 90210 audiences had problems with the actor, even though he was playing a different character. According to IMDB, he's done damn-all in the last 5 years. A perfectly decent (or, anyhow, not conspicuously crappy) acting career shot down by indelible fictional villainy.


DavidS - Jun 13, 2005 12:22:56 pm PDT #8824 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And now, it saddens me that I am so elated by this.

She has a lot of 90210 trivia in her head. I think the OC plays as about 65% 90210 / 35% MSCL to her.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:23:14 pm PDT #8825 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

as I recall, he tried to release an album?


JZ - Jun 13, 2005 12:28:23 pm PDT #8826 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

She has a lot of 90210 trivia in her head. I think the OC plays as about 65% 90210 / 35% MSCL to her.

Hey!

... it's a fair cop.

And, totally randomly, I just looked at Abusive Ray/Harmless Alex's page on IMDB, and today is his 36th birthday.

t straining for on-topicness

Tim has a birthday, right?


DavidS - Jun 13, 2005 12:37:06 pm PDT #8827 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Tim has a birthday, right?

Not hardly! He was raised by a pack of feral beagles, then left in a box in front of a television all day.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2005 12:37:40 pm PDT #8828 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

then left in a box in front of a television all day.

Crate. Definitely a crate.


DavidS - Jun 13, 2005 12:38:33 pm PDT #8829 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Crate. Definitely a crate.

I don't know. I think he's more like Profit than a beagle at this point.


Polter-Cow - Jun 13, 2005 12:48:54 pm PDT #8830 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Where is John Rogers' chicken soup?

[link]

Seeing as a ton of Whedonesque and buffista humans are here, welcome. I'd just like to chime in on THE INSIDE and say Tim Minear did a hell of a job. I look forward immensely to the rest of the run.

In the comments:

Oddly, it was everything that wasn't Silence of the Lambs that made me dig it.

And this is probably a subtle industry foible, but I watch a thousand pilots, and Minear directed the shit out of that thing.