I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:12:02 pm PDT #8816 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Hee. 90210 questions, just what I needed to distract me from writing cover letters.

Ray was Donna Martin's abusive boyfriend, who then went onto the Heights, which had terrible ratings, they thought because most people couldn't deal with the fact that he'd thrown Rose Princess Donna down the stairs. So, they breifly brought him back to say he'd been in counseling and was really really sorry.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:18 pm PDT #8817 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

The Heights was a definite attempt by Fox to copy its own success and grab the 90210 audience for another night, and the cast included some actors who'd appeared before on Fox shows, but it was its own little 'verse, unconnected to 90210.

Also true, though I never watched the Heights.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:22 pm PDT #8818 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

he'd thrown Rose Princess Donna down the stairs.

oh, was that the excuse for all of the plastic surgery?


JZ - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:34 pm PDT #8819 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Wow. I'm so wrong, then.

t slinks away in Spelling-trivia-failure shame


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:13:59 pm PDT #8820 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Only if she'd had it on her forearm.


Daisy Jane - Jun 13, 2005 12:16:15 pm PDT #8821 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

No, you're not wrong JZ. I don't think he was supposed to be "Ray" on The Heights. I never watched it though, but it seems doubtful they'd give the abuser a spin-off. They just didn't think people would have a problem with the guy.

He got comments at concerts too.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:17:14 pm PDT #8822 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, when your main audience is 14-18 years old, sometimes they have a problem separating fantasy from reality. "OMG he looked in my general direction, he totally likes me!"


JZ - Jun 13, 2005 12:19:38 pm PDT #8823 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ha ha, no! IMDB vindicates me, and says his character name on The Heights was Alex!

And now, it saddens me that I am so elated by this.

But, yeah, I think 90210 audiences had problems with the actor, even though he was playing a different character. According to IMDB, he's done damn-all in the last 5 years. A perfectly decent (or, anyhow, not conspicuously crappy) acting career shot down by indelible fictional villainy.


DavidS - Jun 13, 2005 12:22:56 pm PDT #8824 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And now, it saddens me that I am so elated by this.

She has a lot of 90210 trivia in her head. I think the OC plays as about 65% 90210 / 35% MSCL to her.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2005 12:23:14 pm PDT #8825 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

as I recall, he tried to release an album?