Wash: I'm not leaving her side, Mal. Don't ask me again. Mal: I wasn't asking. I was telling.

'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


DXMachina - Jun 09, 2005 6:31:17 am PDT #8480 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I see the former and completely miss the latter.

It strains credibility a bit that a murderer would have his position.


Kat - Jun 09, 2005 6:31:56 am PDT #8481 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I don't expect him to be singing Redemption Song next ep.

if he does, I'm not watching anymore.


Polter-Cow - Jun 09, 2005 6:32:13 am PDT #8482 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It strains credibility a bit that a murderer would have his position.

Only three people know how that actually went down, and none will tell. Especially since one of them's dead.


DavidS - Jun 09, 2005 6:32:29 am PDT #8483 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can't help you there, David. I'm with Consuela -- impossible, well, not IMPOSSIBLE, but unrealistic? Probably. But cool? For me, yep. I want the big, epic, pulpy story turns. And occasionally the big, cheesy, slightly over ripe line. For me that's what this show is for.

This I get. And I think I would've gotten it without creator explanation after a few episodes. I completely respect that every show (or movie or book) represents its own world, and doesn't necessarily have to conform to reality as I know it.

You throw some vampires into the mix, or set it in the future and you immediately create a little wiggle room for expressionist touches, or playing your metaphors out with a little more juicy opera. You set it in the real world, and it takes more time to establish the milieu. The only thing that matters is that it's internally consistent.

That's one thing we talked a lot about with late seasons of Buffy, actually. That the show lost something as it moved away from its broader metaphorical grounding and tried to play out the character's stories in more realistic terms. There was some dissonance with that.

Consuela, didn't the Raiders just get off again after a second trial?


msbelle - Jun 09, 2005 6:33:12 am PDT #8484 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

really? on a TV show? especially a dark one?

I can believe it. Hell I think big bossmen and elected officials have bodies buried in their lawns about half the time in reallife.


Lilty Cash - Jun 09, 2005 6:36:42 am PDT #8485 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Web's shooting first makes a bad man and a forking great show.

I really do love the relationships and possibilities that have been set up to itty bitty pieces, and when I try to lay out my thoughts on the show, I get all excited and start to type too fast. I can't wait for more.


Jessica - Jun 09, 2005 6:41:20 am PDT #8486 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The suspect had just confessed to 9 murders and was holding one of his agents at gunpoint.

Given that this is the TV FBI, I don't have a problem with Web being able to make that shooting look completely justified when he turns in his report.


Polter-Cow - Jun 09, 2005 6:46:02 am PDT #8487 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ganked from TWoP:

MediaWeek:

In series-premiere news, although Fox drama The Inside kicked-off with a modest (and fourth-place) 3.8/ 6 in the overnights, 4.71 million viewers and a 2.0/ 6 among adults 18-49 from 9-10 p.m., comparably that was an increase from a repeat of lead-in Stacked (Overnights: #5, 2.8/ 5; Viewers: #5, 3.82 million; A18-49: #4, 1.8/ 6 at 8:30 p.m.), of 36 percent in the overnights, 890,000 viewers and 11 percent among adults 18-49.

zap2it:

The dark drama "The Inside" debuted to a 3.2/5 on FOX.

So the numbers aren't stellar. How did House premiere?


Kiba Rika - Jun 09, 2005 6:47:54 am PDT #8488 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

Would Webster be a tip of the nib to Webster as in dictionary? He who has lots of data and answers, but you have to really look into him to see what they are? Or John Webster as in "The Duchess of Malfi" and "The Devil's Law-Case"?

Boyfriend and I were discussing this, and I think we have decided we prefer John Webster. I was reminded of John Webster's line in "Shakespeare in Love" - "I like Titus Andronicus." Is so perfect, really.

Speaking as a head case, the absolute lowest part of depression is disassociation, where you're floating outside of yourself, and it's like watching yourself in a movie.

Allyson, I have never heard this described so aptly. I always said it felt like I was in a car and life was going on on the other side of the windshield. But this is so better. It is not hard at all to do bad things to yourself, from a head-place, in this state. But as you pointed out, the physical can be a problem, because your nerves still work.

My favorite part was when she said, "The fourth victim, Allyson Beatrice."

I squealed here. And then said "I KNOW HER!" to my boyfriend. And then mused, "I wonder if she likes being dead?"

...I didn't get to watch the show until just now, cuz I was at a play thingy (rehearsal? meeting? I'm not sure, and I was there) when it aired and then went to bed when I got home. But here were my thoughts:

  • I saw the end of the teaser coming, and not because I'd watched it online (I hadn't, because my computer speakers are in storage) - but it was the kind of "see it coming" where you feel all proud of yourself and stuff, not where you are like "Man, I totally saw that coming... and thus was unsurprised, which is bad." It is more like, "I put the puzzle pieces together and it made a pretty picture! Yay!"

  • At first, Rachel Nichols reminded me of Morena Baccarin. I felt her delivery was very formal, slightly awkward, which worked for Inara (once I saw the eps in order /grumble) but took some time for me to get used to with Rebecca. After discussion with boyf, we determined that since it was obviously a choice, it did not bug.

  • We have dubbed Danny "Jayne-in-a-Suit." It's a problem. With us. We have problems.

  • I actually got excited about seeing Gareth Davies in the credits. It wasn't as expected as the other exciting names (Tim, Jane, et al).

  • Rob Kral really brings it. I am so pleased.

  • Later, I got the River-vibe from Rebecca (during the walk-through-the-house scene). And I *loved* it. LOVED. Crazy smart girl narrates things from other people's perspectives gives me a happy.

  • Web is the man. THE MAN. Boyf LURVES him. I thought he was wicked cool, in a "Boy, I'm glad he's not my boss," way. You go, Peter Coyote.

  • Katie Finneran is so fabulously Scully, and I mean that with the highest praise.

  • Paul is the type of character to whom I normally say, "Shut UP, man!" But here I hearted him. It's always good when you can make me love your conscience-guy, because usually I find them thoroughly irritating.

  • Carter is hot.

  • In the bits with the subway I found myself saying, "Well, here's what Sydney Bristow would do..." It was a good thing, because I love Sydney Bristow more than anyone should love any fictional character, and then Rebecca did a Sydney Bristow-type thing but with her own very special twist on it, and so it was familiar (going with instincts when given orders to do otherwise) but fresh (hesitating rather than just deciding she's right).

  • The lighting was BRILLIANT. Tim, give the person who handles lighting a big, tasty cookie. Because it was BRILLIANT.

  • All in all, good work, and I look forward to more. I may have to participate in a Carrboro watch'n'post event in the future. We shall see.


Dana - Jun 09, 2005 6:49:05 am PDT #8489 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, and the bit in the teaser with the pager going off would have been cool had I not seen the same twist on an episode of E.R., lo these many years ago. TV has spoiled me for TV.