Two out of three assumes one victim per episode.
Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.
'Time Bomb'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2005 10:52:01 am PDT #7847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2005 10:53:19 am PDT #7848 of 10001
What is even happening?
I know exactly what she means, though. I mean, I don't know it with respect to The Inside, but damn, I'm tired of female victims. I watched L&O SVU once, and when I realized it was, as Allyson calls it, "Crimes Against Vaginas" I never again tuned in, despite loving the Munch.
I think my aversion to female victimization is part of the reason I fell in love with BtVS, and why as much as I love Angel, and think it was a more grown up show, it wasn't *my* show the way Buffy was (it was damned close, and became my show by default, later).
Not having seen the series, I thought she was fair to it. She didn't shit on it. She said she's holding her opinion 'til she sees more, and there are some elements which she thinks will weaken it, if they're in every episode.
Vortex - Jun 06, 2005 10:53:32 am PDT #7849 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Well, that doesn't make any sense, because if there's only one victim then the perp isn't a serial killer right?
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2005 10:55:19 am PDT #7850 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yup, Vortex. She could have been looking at fifteen out of sixteen being female. Who knows?
Wait ... we will. Soon.
Cindy -- I think Allyson called SVU Crimes Against Vaginas, not Crimes Against Those With Vaginas -- the distinction is probably a big one for her. And for me, too.
Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2005 10:59:50 am PDT #7851 of 10001
What is even happening?
Gotcha, ita. I don't think it's that big a difference for me, honestly, if victims are overwhelmingly female. I understand that's also often a serial killer thing. There are female serial killers, but more of them are male and I *think* more of the male serial killers have a thing for killing women. I'm just tired of it.
But, as Amatangelo started out by saying, Adam Baldwin? Tim Minear? I'm pretty much showing up. I actually shouldn't have clicked the link to that article. I'd decided to stop reading about it and res ipsa loquitur.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2005 11:03:08 am PDT #7852 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I am so fucking tired of sexual crimes against women being used as shorthand for the ultimate let's-form-a-posse-and-ride-em-down crime. That's my problem with SVU -- the S was supposed to be for special, but might as well have been for sexual.
I don't mind a woman being a woman. I get annoyed with each woman being a pussy.
msbelle - Jun 06, 2005 11:05:30 am PDT #7853 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
No big shocker that a group that deals with serial criminals is going to be facing mostly men who target women. Sure, I don't expect 100% reality from any TV show, but if half the perps were women? I'd expect the storyline to involve an alien race or something.
Nicklas - Jun 06, 2005 11:07:23 am PDT #7854 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."
Ita: Or one killer / week.
Jesse - Jun 06, 2005 11:08:45 am PDT #7855 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
That's my problem with SVU -- the S was supposed to be for special, but might as well have been for sexual.
But "In New York City, sexually-based offenses are considered especially heinous." It's not like they aren't up front with it.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2005 11:11:53 am PDT #7856 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's not like they aren't up front with it.
I'm not claiming to have been conned into watching, or anything. Just that...this week, a woman is raped, and Olivia feels terrible about it, because she's a child of rape. Next week, a teenaged girl will be raped, and the guy will feel awful, because he has daughters. Lather, rinse, repeat, toss in the odd homosexual freakery, and then you're golden.
Or ... BORING.
I've alsoe heard it called "L&O: Rape Is Bad"
That's about all it was for me. Got old for me pretty quickly.