Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


smushedfacelion - Jun 01, 2004 3:13:47 pm PDT #76 of 10001
Just low blood sugar. Ate a Snickers. Thanks for coming.

You know, if I come up with a plan that allows networks to run a full 13-22 episode order and still make money despite DVRs and bring the male 18-49 audience back as well, will they pay me money for it?

Figure out a way to get another 13 episodes of Wonderfalls made, and I'll send cash.

I know it's ridiculously optimistic of me, but I'm kind of hoping that if they sell enough DVD's, maybe it'll trigger some further interest in the franchise. From what I've read, the DVD sales contributed to the green-lighting of the Firefly movie.

I loved Red Dwarf, and those seasons were 6 to 8 episodes long. If you know going into it that you've only got 6, or 8, or 13 episodes to tell the story, you may actually end up with tighter, higher quality shows. Less filler, more time to get it right. 22 episodes is a lot of TV.


libkitty - Jun 01, 2004 3:20:04 pm PDT #77 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Way, long ago, you were right P-C, my numbering was off. Thanks!

On the bright side, I have a beautiful new computer, and hope to have a modem that works soon, cause I'm too cheap for cable internet.

Wish I could write poetry, even though I'm late.


ellemarie - Jun 01, 2004 4:32:02 pm PDT #78 of 10001
My tagline and life are a work in progress.

Pomona College.
Once upon a time I came so very close to going there. Bought the t-shirt, etc. Then changed my mind. I tend to do that. Can you tell us what the 47 means or is it a secret you have to take to the grave?

the best BBC product since sliced bread
The BBC makes sliced bread? No fair. We can't even get TV here in the states to show quality shows, much less feed us.

If you know that you have that parameter beforehand, it's easier on all of our stomachs.
Yes, this. I don't know whether it would make for better TV per se, but it would probably make me happier. But then, I miss the era of the mini series. I don't remember being sad that North and South or Queen or whatever was going off the air because they actually finished the story! If I'm given an ending, I'm not nearly as cranky. I wonder how the Tims and Josses of the world would feel. Excited to dive into something new all the time or frustrated that they never really get their rhythm with the cast and crew?


thegrommit - Jun 01, 2004 5:37:54 pm PDT #79 of 10001
Um.

I loved Red Dwarf, and those seasons were 6 to 8 episodes long.

Similarly for Black Adder

If you know going into it that you've only got 6, or 8, or 13 episodes to tell the story, you may actually end up with tighter, higher quality shows. Less filler, more time to get it right. 22 episodes is a lot of TV.

IIRC, Joss made a comment about having to make every minute of Firefly count as he knew they were constantly under the gun. While I don't envy being under that sort of pressure, it certainly made for some compelling TV.


smushedfacelion - Jun 01, 2004 6:19:47 pm PDT #80 of 10001
Just low blood sugar. Ate a Snickers. Thanks for coming.

Similarly for Black Adder

Forgot all about Black Adder - that's out on DVD right? I only caught a couple episodes of BA IV, I think it was. The one set in World War I? Laughed my ass off.

I think I'm going to be watching a lot of stuff on DVD this year, because the TV schedule looks pretty grim from my perspective. My guess on where all the 18-49 males went? Blockbuster.


The Partyman - Jun 01, 2004 6:29:39 pm PDT #81 of 10001
[insert something funny here]

The BBC makes sliced bread? No fair. We can't even get TV here in the states to show quality shows, much less feed us.

Well they did produce and air the popular show "Bread" in the late 80's, which came in 30 minute 'slices'.

(Not that I ever watched it, just couldn't resist the pun).


Liese S. - Jun 01, 2004 6:34:05 pm PDT #82 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

<off-topic>(look how disciplined I am by admitting I'm off, eh? turning over a new thread.)

I know you have all been in suspense about how my hair turned out. Whaddya think?

</off-topic>

You know, it's interesting about the British seasons/arcs. I hadn't actually noticed that, other than thinking, gee I sure have seen all these Coupling eps, haven't I, and really, they're in which season now? I don't actually mind the amount of time that it takes overall, so long as the arc is deliberate and complete.

Hey, while we're on it, how long do the Brit shows air (minutes) in the UK? Do they have fewer commercials per show than the US?


P.M. Marc - Jun 01, 2004 6:37:34 pm PDT #83 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

WOW! Liese, you look amazing.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2004 6:37:43 pm PDT #84 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Excellent haircut, Liese.

how long do the Brit shows air (minutes) in the UK?

Anything you see on BBCAmerica originally aired without ads at all.


JohnSweden - Jun 01, 2004 6:38:13 pm PDT #85 of 10001
I can't even.

I know you have all been in suspense about how my hair turned out. Whaddya think?

Where's Hec? The new cut looks great, Liese.

t Nattery

Stuff is off-topic in this thread? Huh.

t /Nattery