Allyson, have you read "Xenogenesis"?
Octavia Butler?
Dawn: I thought you were adequate. Giles: And the accolades keep pouring in. I'd best take my leave before my head swells any larger. Good night.
'First Date'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
§ ita § - May 23, 2005 6:38:35 am PDT #7176 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Topic!Cindy - May 23, 2005 6:47:26 am PDT #7177 of 10001
What is even happening?
Hey, you make me sound mean!
...yeah, okay, but I didn't say that in a mean way. I don't have anyhing better to do than come up with sociological theories about fandom, after all.That's not mean. If my friend keeps banging his head against the wall and then complains of a headache, the first thing I say to him is bound to be, "Um, maybe you should stop banging your head against the wall."
When fandom had me completely crazed once, an old Bronzer said to me, "Is any of this going to matter in five years?"
Taking that in was like seeing for the first time, or at least for the first time in a long time.
Steph L. - May 23, 2005 7:17:52 am PDT #7178 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
There's a lot of strange people out there in the land of fandom. Some are dead on, others are just plain odd and scary
The thing with fandom is -- fans are all craxy to someone.
It's like there's a hierarchy of crazy fans, and each level thinks that all the levels above it are crazy -- except there's usually yet another level below that thinks you're crazy.
[Examples removed because my attempt at illustration could perhaps be taken as insult and though that is so totally NOT what I mean, I'd rather not Start Something.]
As my most serious case of over-identification was with Jeff from Coupling, I haven't had the misfortune to hit that particular spot of pain. Maybe part of that is that when I identify with a character, I tend to identify with the least sympathetic of the character's flaws, so I expect bad things to come of it.
"I'm generally very tense. I think I've fallen into the trap of blaming fruit."
www.givetimmyahug.com is available
And all I can think of here is Tim Drake.
DavidS - May 23, 2005 7:20:17 am PDT #7179 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
nay, not just to *disagree,* but to get offended by it! S'cool. Bring it.
You're in a contentious mood. So you've already called Allyson, Kristen, Connie and Shrift and Dana crazy at slots 2 and 3.
Betsy HP - May 23, 2005 7:21:17 am PDT #7180 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
When fandom had me completely crazed once, an old Bronzer said to me, "Is any of this going to matter in five years?"
My favorite line for putting all of life's crises into proportion:
In a hundred years, all new people.
Steph L. - May 23, 2005 7:24:00 am PDT #7181 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
You're in a contentious mood. So you've already called Allyson, Kristen, Connie and Shrift and Dana crazy at slots 2 and 3.
Urk. I don't mean that *I* think they're crazy. I have no high ground when it comes to sanity. I just meant how different levels of involvement are perceived. Jesus. As I was typing it, I kept thinking "Don't post this, don't post this, you're going to get misunderstood and flogged."
I am surprised, however, that you're the first one to pull out the flogger.
I think I'll edit. Or delete.
§ ita § - May 23, 2005 7:26:59 am PDT #7182 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Don't edit or delete, Steph. Hec's reading comprehension was off, is all.
We're at buffistas.org -- how can we not appear insane on that hierarchy?
Nilly - May 23, 2005 7:28:07 am PDT #7183 of 10001
Swouncing
Teppy, but aren't you putting your very own self somewhere in that list, around number 4, maybe, considering you're involved in an online forum that formed arounf a tv show?
[Edit: sort of x-post with ita, who said it better]
thegrommit - May 23, 2005 7:28:31 am PDT #7184 of 10001
Um.
I have no high ground when it comes to sanity
Words to live by.
Steph L. - May 23, 2005 7:29:23 am PDT #7185 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Don't edit or delete, Steph. Hec's reading comprehension was off, is all.
No, I don't have it in me to deal today. I don't want to start what will be known to future generations as the Fannish Craziness Level Kerfluffle of Summer 2005, all over me being unclear.
Everyone's crazy, no one's crazy, whatever.