Teppy, but aren't you putting your very own self somewhere in that list, around number 4, maybe, considering you're involved in an online forum that formed arounf a tv show?

Well, yes. And that's what I mean by my now-deleted hierarchy -- that in fandom (and life in general), everyone thinks that someone else is crazy, but that means that someone is thinking that you're crazy, too.

Person A might think that Person B is crazy for running a fan web site, but Person A doesn't know that Person C thinks that *he* (Person A, that is) is crazy for never ever ever missing an episode of some TV show.

Can of mixed nuts, all the way around.

It's like there's a hierarchy of crazy fans, and each level thinks that all the levels above it are crazy -- except there's usually yet another level below that thinks you're crazy.

This is totally true, everyone just haggles over the hierarchy. See: [link] for sf fandom version.

::gasps as 'fuffle slips through her fingers::

Totally your call.

::gasps as 'fuffle slips through her fingers::

I am denying you your 'fuffle! Behold my power!

Allyson, have you read "Xenogenesis"?

I did not. Should I?

I was up too late writing. I am incredibly protective of writers in general, needlessly so, perhaps.

I love the Cyrano aspect of it all. I was doing research late last night about some of the more famous movie lines. "You know how to whistle, don't you Steve? Just put your lips together and blow."

Made Bacall famous, it did. And it was written by some guy named Hawk, probably in his pajamas, probably buzzing on too much caffeine, probably smelly and dishelved at 4AM.

There's a Cyrano aspect to writing for stage and screen, methinks. And I always think writers are way sexier than actors.

always think writers are way sexier than actors

Do you think bad writers are sexier than good actors?

I think writers have more potential to be fannishly interesting, since I don't so much care about actors' takes on the characters or plots.

I am denying you your 'fuffle! Behold my power!

*psst*, Steph is decrying your muffeletta - pass it on

Allyson, I love the Cyrano way you described these things.

And I always think writers are way sexier than actors.

I have a much higher chance of recognizing a name of a writer than of an actor. As much as my sieve remembers names (and names don't have faces attached to them, so my scary visual place has to really try to keep them inside), it's writers names long before actors names.

Many times in Israel, the subtitles lines hide the names in the credits at the beginning of the show, so it's hard to see the name of the writer, you have to juggle it between fast-following subtitles. And still, even as a kid, those were the names I was trying to catch. And to remember: "oh, that's the name that went with that show that I liked, so I'd better catch this one". The identity of the writer seemed more important to me - for the show - than that of an actor.

[Edit: which is again a less-well-worded x-post with ita. I think that I don't know enough about acting to make it matter to me - I know less than nothing about acting. I don't know what put into my head that I may know something about writing, but despite that, I apparently behave as if I do. Silly me]

I am surprised, however, that you're the first one to pull out the flogger.

I wasn't serious. I knew that wasn't your intent. Not that I don't like a good flogging victim from time to time.

Clerks

Dante and what'shisface? So not goth. Also lacking in boobies and XML skills.

The thing with fandom is -- fans are all craxy to someone.

Too true. Which is why, for example, there are certain aspects of my comics love I just won't discuss in the shop. Safer to stick to talking smack about Green Lanterns and making fun of the covers for the Under the Hood storyline in Batman with the guys than to say, "Whoa, so, last week's Outsiders. How totally doing it are Dick and Roy? I have GOT to write a missing scene with them in the shower or beg FiccerX to do it." or "Dude, Loeb's version of Superman and Batman need to move their HQs to Boston, because they are SO married." Because the former makes me normal in the eyes of the guys, but the latter'd have them backing away slowly as they hand me my pulls. Meanwhile, the general population thinks all of us are nutburgers.

"I'm generally very tense. I think I've fallen into the trap of blaming fruit."

See? Jeff is me, though again, lacking in boobies.