Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Astarte - May 22, 2005 9:36:42 am PDT #7061 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Any show about a fat, dumb, ugly dude who has no redeeming qualities married to a smart, beautiful, constantly annoyed woman makes me insane. The Flintstones and The Simpsons without the animation. Bleh.

Allyson and I share a barrier.

More than one, most likely, but this one's a definite co-op.


Kevin - May 22, 2005 9:44:13 am PDT #7062 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

SailAweigh, marketing companies can't reach you, if you don't really buy into marketing. This is, of course, where the internet comes in. Or internet fandom, rather. I strongly suspects sites such as Buffistas have more of an impact in general viewing habits than people give them credit for. If you'd taken BTVS back a decade or two before t'interweb, I can't imagine it surviving so long.


Lilty Cash - May 22, 2005 9:51:06 am PDT #7063 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I finally saw my first teaser for the show. I can't wait.


Consuela - May 22, 2005 10:55:43 am PDT #7064 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Hey, Allyson-- I gave your email addy to my pal Liz of SMRT-tv fame, so if something from a total stranger shows up in your inbox, that's who that is.


AnthonyDe - May 22, 2005 11:00:25 am PDT #7065 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

Tim's post there was very informative.

I'm interested to see so many (sf and fantasy) genre fans turning up their noses at the cop/thriller genre.

I think I'm one of those. Not so much I'm turning up my nose but sf and fantasy is my genre of choice. On the other hand I love cop shows. Enjoyed NYPD Blue, hell I even watched the Ed O'Neill LA Dragnet. In fairness I haven't been getting cop/thriller so much from the promos. I'm getting a creepy horror tone.

My "procedural" is really a character drama disguised as a procedural.

I think we all have the same frame of reference when the word "procedural" is used. Let's face it there are a lot of them. What I know outside of here, which are the promos, is that the main character was a victim and she uses that experience in her work. I also know that everyone in the unit seems to have a "problem" that it seems they draw on as well. I suppose if they decide on a template for the promos there is no breaking it. I'd be interested to see one that emphasized the cop/character drama stuff primarily, lightly salted with the creepy.

For some folks I suspect the FBI violent crimes/John Douglas thing will be what the execs call a "barrier to entry."

"Barrier to entry." I love jargon. What's the opposite to barrier to entry I wonder? Yeah the violent crime is a concern for me. I guess I get my fill from the news. For some people it's entirely the opposite. I've been meaning to trot out this article. Horror Films Boom Amid War, Anxiety


Polter-Cow - May 22, 2005 11:04:27 am PDT #7066 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What's the opposite to barrier to entry I wonder?

A hook.


AnthonyDe - May 22, 2005 11:40:09 am PDT #7067 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

A hook.

That's it? Kind of a letdown. I thought it would be something like "induce investment."


Polter-Cow - May 22, 2005 11:48:28 am PDT #7068 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, I just made that up. There may be a more convoluted term yet.


DCJensen - May 22, 2005 11:59:01 am PDT #7069 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The hook brings you back. On that you can rely.


Typo Boy - May 22, 2005 12:07:28 pm PDT #7070 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm not turning up my nose at this. But the one thing that worries me is that extreme violence and grim situations combined with a lack of fantasy elements will make the show horrifying to me rather than enjoyable; there is a certain distancing I need with fictional violence, or extreme suffering or the show gets depressing to me. I'll watch the first episode; if I feel miserable and depressed after it I won't watch a second. If not, given the likely quality, I'll probably be hooked and go on watching it. Very subjective - no promises either way, but really I can't say fairer.