Tim's post there was very informative.

I'm interested to see so many (sf and fantasy) genre fans turning up their noses at the cop/thriller genre.

I think I'm one of those. Not so much I'm turning up my nose but sf and fantasy is my genre of choice. On the other hand I love cop shows. Enjoyed NYPD Blue, hell I even watched the Ed O'Neill LA Dragnet. In fairness I haven't been getting cop/thriller so much from the promos. I'm getting a creepy horror tone.

My "procedural" is really a character drama disguised as a procedural.

I think we all have the same frame of reference when the word "procedural" is used. Let's face it there are a lot of them. What I know outside of here, which are the promos, is that the main character was a victim and she uses that experience in her work. I also know that everyone in the unit seems to have a "problem" that it seems they draw on as well. I suppose if they decide on a template for the promos there is no breaking it. I'd be interested to see one that emphasized the cop/character drama stuff primarily, lightly salted with the creepy.

For some folks I suspect the FBI violent crimes/John Douglas thing will be what the execs call a "barrier to entry."

"Barrier to entry." I love jargon. What's the opposite to barrier to entry I wonder? Yeah the violent crime is a concern for me. I guess I get my fill from the news. For some people it's entirely the opposite. I've been meaning to trot out this article. Horror Films Boom Amid War, Anxiety

What's the opposite to barrier to entry I wonder?

A hook.

A hook.

That's it? Kind of a letdown. I thought it would be something like "induce investment."

Well, I just made that up. There may be a more convoluted term yet.

The hook brings you back. On that you can rely.

Hmm not turning up my nose at this. But the one thing that worries me is that extreme violence and grim situations combined with a lack of fantasy elements will make the show horrifying to me rather than enjoyable; there is a certain distancing I need with fictional violence, or extreme suffering or the show gets depressing to me. I'll watch the first episode; if I feel miserable and depressed after it I won't watch a second. If not, given the likely quality, I'll probably be hooked and go on watching it. Very subjective - no promises either way, but really I can't say fairer.

Hey, Adam Baldwin as a hot headed ex-Marine... I don't think it'll get too grim.

Is he hot-headed or is his head just hot?

Both.

Without wanting to sound all gay, and all.

Is he hot-headed or is his head just hot?

Maybe he's wearing one of Jayne's hats?