You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gus - May 21, 2005 8:01:32 pm PDT #7026 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I get what you are saying, Allyson.

My perception differs, a bit. My perception is that Buffistas will hold your feet to the fire until you give up the raw truth.

It don't make us popular with the creators. Their feet, after all, are on fire.

We want more.

Cancel that.

I want more. Tim can deliver more.


Kristen - May 21, 2005 8:06:18 pm PDT #7027 of 10001

But how do you know what Tim has or has not delivered since you haven't actually seen anything?


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:14:47 pm PDT #7028 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Tim can deliver more.

More than what? We haven't seen anything yet. Tim's particular strengths (I think) have to do with narrative structure and directing. That's just not going to come across in a 30-second ad. I mean, what would a commercial for "Out of Gas" or "Are You Now..." look like? Not exemplifying Tim's gifts. 'Cuz he ain't about the soundbite.

So, my premise remains: the promos are to intrigue the people who don't know who Tim Minear is. The fundamental premise of the show is broad enough (and seemingly well-cast enough) to support any number of Minearvian stories. Tim does dark. Tim does noir. This'll work.


Gus - May 21, 2005 8:19:55 pm PDT #7029 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I do not know what Tim has delivered, beyond the teasers.

Teasers are crafted by the network, in ways that horrify the creators.

I am just giving my honest appraisal based on the teasers. There may be some congruent appraisal among the great unwashed, or there may not.


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:22:17 pm PDT #7030 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am just giving my honest appraisal based on the teasers.

Which is fine, but I'm going to have to bust your logic. Tim is not responsible for teasers. You expect more from Tim. Tim has probably delivered that something more (or so I believe) but we can't really tell one way or the other from the teasers.

So, your expectation is based on something Tim didn't do. You should be snarking at the network teaser-maker-people.

Mind, Tim has taken his fair share of criticism here and with good grace. Ahh, how well I remember the snarking over he got over "Billy." It's not like a criticism free zone.


Polter-Cow - May 21, 2005 8:30:23 pm PDT #7031 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ahh, how well I remember the snarking over he got over "Billy."

I really like "Billy."

I'm just saying.


Allyson - May 21, 2005 8:30:28 pm PDT #7032 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I remember Firefly marketed as a zany romp through space with Smashbox's Walkin' On the Sun as the background music.

I do however think that some of the ads have been pretty good.


Gus - May 21, 2005 8:33:54 pm PDT #7033 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I am not snarking at anyone.

I am relating my experience from the teasers.

For the record: Tim is the real deal, by my lights.

He gives a fuck. I know this.


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:34:44 pm PDT #7034 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I do however think that some of the ads have been pretty good.

I think the recent ones have been intriguing.

But I think I'm a Katie Finneran loyalist now anyway.


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:37:14 pm PDT #7035 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am not snarking at anyone.

Well, there's your problem right there.

He gives a fuck. I know this.

He's very generous. He might give a fuck.