Tim can deliver more.

More than what? We haven't seen anything yet. Tim's particular strengths (I think) have to do with narrative structure and directing. That's just not going to come across in a 30-second ad. I mean, what would a commercial for "Out of Gas" or "Are You Now..." look like? Not exemplifying Tim's gifts. 'Cuz he ain't about the soundbite.

So, my premise remains: the promos are to intrigue the people who don't know who Tim Minear is. The fundamental premise of the show is broad enough (and seemingly well-cast enough) to support any number of Minearvian stories. Tim does dark. Tim does noir. This'll work.

I do not know what Tim has delivered, beyond the teasers.

Teasers are crafted by the network, in ways that horrify the creators.

I am just giving my honest appraisal based on the teasers. There may be some congruent appraisal among the great unwashed, or there may not.

I am just giving my honest appraisal based on the teasers.

Which is fine, but I'm going to have to bust your logic. Tim is not responsible for teasers. You expect more from Tim. Tim has probably delivered that something more (or so I believe) but we can't really tell one way or the other from the teasers.

So, your expectation is based on something Tim didn't do. You should be snarking at the network teaser-maker-people.

Mind, Tim has taken his fair share of criticism here and with good grace. Ahh, how well I remember the snarking over he got over "Billy." It's not like a criticism free zone.

Ahh, how well I remember the snarking over he got over "Billy."

I really like "Billy."

I'm just saying.

I remember Firefly marketed as a zany romp through space with Smashbox's Walkin' On the Sun as the background music.

I do however think that some of the ads have been pretty good.

I am not snarking at anyone.

I am relating my experience from the teasers.

For the record: Tim is the real deal, by my lights.

He gives a fuck. I know this.

I do however think that some of the ads have been pretty good.

I think the recent ones have been intriguing.

But I think I'm a Katie Finneran loyalist now anyway.

I am not snarking at anyone.

Well, there's your problem right there.

He gives a fuck. I know this.

He's very generous. He might give a fuck.

Well, there's your problem right there.

DavidS, let me award you this generous phbbbt!

DavidS, let me award you this generous phbbbt!

Say it, don't spray it, babe.

And while you're saying it, give me an update on Seamus, your girlfriend, and the Drug Replicator device you were working on.

Also, any new kites in your collection.