I like the ruffles.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gus - May 21, 2005 8:33:54 pm PDT #7033 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I am not snarking at anyone.

I am relating my experience from the teasers.

For the record: Tim is the real deal, by my lights.

He gives a fuck. I know this.


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:34:44 pm PDT #7034 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I do however think that some of the ads have been pretty good.

I think the recent ones have been intriguing.

But I think I'm a Katie Finneran loyalist now anyway.


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:37:14 pm PDT #7035 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am not snarking at anyone.

Well, there's your problem right there.

He gives a fuck. I know this.

He's very generous. He might give a fuck.


Gus - May 21, 2005 8:40:56 pm PDT #7036 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Well, there's your problem right there.

DavidS, let me award you this generous phbbbt!


DavidS - May 21, 2005 8:48:51 pm PDT #7037 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

DavidS, let me award you this generous phbbbt!

Say it, don't spray it, babe.

And while you're saying it, give me an update on Seamus, your girlfriend, and the Drug Replicator device you were working on.

Also, any new kites in your collection.


Gus - May 21, 2005 9:01:58 pm PDT #7038 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

You do not care about any of that crap. The fact that my goilfiriend is almost as purty as yours and that I have a really incredible number of cooler kites than you do is immaterial.

The Drug Replicator, however, continues to be cooler than kites.


Polter-Cow - May 21, 2005 9:06:07 pm PDT #7039 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

He's very generous. He might give a fuck.

From Tim, I demand two fucks.

That...didn't come out right.


DavidS - May 21, 2005 9:26:18 pm PDT #7040 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That...didn't come out right.

23 years and counting.

You do not care about any of that crap.

So very untrue. Mostly I'm wondering (in a nosy manner) if you talked your son into moving to a monkeyless country and whether he's spawning anytime soon. Also your sassy girlfriend has both the intriguing science brain and the sin inspiring physical person. So naturally I'm just curious.

and that I have a really incredible number of cooler kites than you do is immaterial.

Undeniable. As I have one kite and it is not a cool one.

The Drug Replicator, however, continues to be cooler than kites.

But not as cool as a drug delivery system of kites.


aurelia - May 21, 2005 9:32:15 pm PDT #7041 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

But not as cool as a drug delivery system of kites.

sssssh, Hec! If they're gonna stop the buses to and from Canada, we've gotta keep this quiet!


Tim Minear - May 21, 2005 10:43:52 pm PDT #7042 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Allyson, I lurve you. You really needn't protect me so. I didn't find Gus rude. I'm interested to see so many (sf and fantasy) genre fans turning up their noses at the cop/thriller genre. I wasn't really expecting that, and find it kind of interesting. "Oh, another procedural, just what we need" kinda thing. Well, I happen to dig procedurals. I admire the shit out of CSI and Without A Trace, the two I happen to watch. I love Ellroy more than Heinlein and James M. Cain more than anyone. Didn't see the Jolie thing, and I really like Poppy Montgomery. Thing is, I don't know that I'd call The Inside a procedural. I don't really know anything about anything. Which is one reason I've always felt at home in fantasy. You can just make shit up. Angel wasn't a horror show so much as a action/character Douglas Sirk melodrama. My "procedural" is really a character drama disguised as a procedural. I have an FBI agent employed who gives me tech notes on scripts, but the currency I trade in is moral ambiguity, irony, pain, death, hopefully driving the viewer toward a familiar corner, then banking off a cliff. And ho-yay. So it's closer to Angel than it is to, say, Law and Order.

I broke Wonderfalls stories exactly the same way I broke Angel and Firefly stories. And I'm breaking The Inside the same way. For some folks I suspect the FBI violent crimes/John Douglas thing will be what the execs call a "barrier to entry." My uncle found the whole vampire thing a barrier to entry on Angel. And some of my friends found the westernisms a barrier to entry on Firefly. Others the whole SF thing. And let's not even get into the talking animals in Wonderfalls. Hell, in the same way Gus is having trouble because The Inside might smack of something that's gone before it, a whole mess 'o folks couldn't get past Joan Of Arcadia when it came to Wonderfalls.

If Gus doesn't think the thing that the promos represents is something for him, then I suspect the show's not gonna be for him -- this is the first time I've felt like promos were fairly selling a show I did.