What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2004 10:53:08 am PDT #68 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Line Of Fire seems to have been arced with a direction-changing big moment at episode 13. I wonder if that was deliberate, and how often it happens in shows that don't get cancelled. I should make a note to look at all the ep 13s next season. If there are any.


lori - Jun 01, 2004 11:24:28 am PDT #69 of 10001

Was that ep 12/13 that showed on Sunday? Any word on showing any more?


Tamara - Jun 01, 2004 12:04:34 pm PDT #70 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

"The Minear Approach" to television writing.

The fact that this makes complete sense makes me sad.

Yay for the new thread and the flurry of haikus and limericks were fabulous.


Sydney Carton - Jun 01, 2004 1:09:05 pm PDT #71 of 10001
Actually, I've feeling a wee bit peckish...

You know this could become "The Method" for a new generation of TV writers.

What a sad day that would be.

The only series is the Franchise or the mini-series.

Man, I'm in technology and we see a lot of gut-less financial types, but I think the short sightedness of TV excutives is starting to take the cake.

Dear lord.


Tamara - Jun 01, 2004 1:21:32 pm PDT #72 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Sydney, I agree with you and I am one of those corporate gutless financial types.

snerk


The Partyman - Jun 01, 2004 1:41:00 pm PDT #73 of 10001
[insert something funny here]

I find the main problem with the 'short' seasons of shows here in the UK is that they make the waiting for new episodes almost heart-breakingly long. I know I'd prefer a run of 22 'hour-long' episodes than a short run of 6-10 anyday. I love 'Coupling', but at only six or seven 30 minute episodes, the Season is over almost as soon as it has begun!

Additionally, with short runs of series, it's harder for viewers to keep track of when shows are airing and/or returning... for example, I'm sure it's been well over a year since S2 of "Spooks" (imho the best BBC product since sliced bread), and S3 doesn't seem incoming until the Autumn...

One good thing about UK TV, is that we have the BBC producing drama without the commercial constraints of advertising pressures. Interestingly they often produce Television of greater quality then their commercially-motivated counterparts (imo).

You know, if I come up with a plan that allows networks to run a full 13-22 episode order and still make money despite DVRs and bring the male 18-49 audience back as well, will they pay me money for it?

I'd like to think theat they'd pay you a fucking boatload of money... but there's the question of, do they really care?


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2004 2:03:13 pm PDT #74 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Lori, I think we were lucky to get what we got. I'm gonna have to ask Colin if he has copies of the two lost eps.


lori - Jun 01, 2004 3:06:09 pm PDT #75 of 10001

Ooh - that'd be good. Damn thing got interesting!


smushedfacelion - Jun 01, 2004 3:13:47 pm PDT #76 of 10001
Just low blood sugar. Ate a Snickers. Thanks for coming.

You know, if I come up with a plan that allows networks to run a full 13-22 episode order and still make money despite DVRs and bring the male 18-49 audience back as well, will they pay me money for it?

Figure out a way to get another 13 episodes of Wonderfalls made, and I'll send cash.

I know it's ridiculously optimistic of me, but I'm kind of hoping that if they sell enough DVD's, maybe it'll trigger some further interest in the franchise. From what I've read, the DVD sales contributed to the green-lighting of the Firefly movie.

I loved Red Dwarf, and those seasons were 6 to 8 episodes long. If you know going into it that you've only got 6, or 8, or 13 episodes to tell the story, you may actually end up with tighter, higher quality shows. Less filler, more time to get it right. 22 episodes is a lot of TV.


libkitty - Jun 01, 2004 3:20:04 pm PDT #77 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Way, long ago, you were right P-C, my numbering was off. Thanks!

On the bright side, I have a beautiful new computer, and hope to have a modem that works soon, cause I'm too cheap for cable internet.

Wish I could write poetry, even though I'm late.