No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.

Riley ,'Lessons'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2005 6:45:57 am PDT #6466 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Dammit, I must have been out of the room during that. Curse you, wee bladder (so to speak)!


Jon B. - May 10, 2005 6:51:57 am PDT #6467 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I saw it, and I hate to be all Negative Nelson again, but if I didn't know it was a Minear Production, I'd dismiss it as a second-rate suspense-horror Silence of the Lambs wannabee. FAQ Girl, who shares many of my tastes but is not tied into fandom, turned to me and said "that looks terrible!" She trusts me, and so will give it a shot, but left to her own devices she'd never watch it.


Kristen - May 10, 2005 7:09:03 am PDT #6468 of 10001

Maybe you guys just aren't the target audience for this one.


Allyson - May 10, 2005 7:26:13 am PDT #6469 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Agreed.


Vortex - May 10, 2005 7:29:34 am PDT #6470 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that a lot of the trailers/commercials are targeted towards people who dont' have much original thought. Therefore, the creators try to make it seem like something that the audience has seen before and liked. We, on the other hand, don't like copying or derivatives, so it turns us off.


Hayden - May 10, 2005 7:34:02 am PDT #6471 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I don't have much faith in tv trailers. If I did, I probably wouldn't have ever watched Veronica Mars, The Wire, or even Buffy, all of which had horrible-looking trailers. 'Course, some terrible shows also have terrible trailers, so there's no rule of thumb here, except that trailers suck.

Edit - promos! That's the word I was looking for.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2005 7:37:44 am PDT #6472 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Maybe you guys just aren't the target audience for this one.

You mean the promo and not the show, right? Because I can totally see Fox LCD-ing the show in their promos. Also, the people doing the shows don't do the promos, do they?


Allyson - May 10, 2005 7:43:00 am PDT #6473 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

As in love with the show as I am, as much as I want every human on the planet to love it as much as I, honestly, it really isn't for everyone. It isn't Firefly or Buffy. It is a suspense/thriller.

It is a teevee SotL. It is intense and rich. It isn't everyone's taste, and I expect noses to wrinkle at the level of violence so that maybe they won't stick around for the deep wells that are the characters.

I'm cool with that. Don't torture yourselves out of loyalty. I wish I hadn't watched the last two seasons of BtVS. I should have stopped watching Angel much earlier than I did.

But if it looks like shit to you, please, don't turn it on out of loyalty unless you have a Nielsen box. Why torture yourself?


Allyson - May 10, 2005 7:49:46 am PDT #6474 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, I'm unsure what I'd do different with the promos, I think they're pretty spot on, actually.

ETA: I'm sure I don't have to say this in present company, but in case anyone thinks I'm secretly working as a Reamworks rep, and infiltrating fandom, no, not speaking for Tim, I have no idea how he feels about the promos.


Hayden - May 10, 2005 7:54:55 am PDT #6475 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Also, I'm unsure what I'd do different with the promos, I think they're pretty spot on, actually.

I haven't actually seen a one. Just making a general point.