'Get It Done'
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Gilligan claims that girls prefer consensus and boys prefer hierarchy, ... Girls want popualrity and boys want status
The trouble is that popularity is status, under most circumstances. Similarly, consensus may turn out to result from social hierarchy, as anybody who has ever used the phrase "cool kids" in Bureaucracy can tell you.
It's extremely difficult to prove whether the goals are different for boys or girls, or whether it's the tactics and definitions of success that differ.
Huh. This whole discussion is making me wonder if maybe we're debating the wrong issue: is it possible that people in sci-fi fandoms tend to be less stereotypically gendered on both sides, male and female?
ETA: That sounds less like an insightful question and more like an obvious statement the longer I look at it. Nebbermind.
How integral is fanfic to fandom? It's sort of part of my assumption -- not that you have to necessarily create or consume to be part of fandom, but it's a room in the house.
Hell if I know. I mean, I know my experience of fandom, but what's the difference between someone who's a fan of the show and someone who's in fandom? It's nearly an eternal, unanswerable question.
Could the lack of presense in fandom of the XY be related to the increased importance of fanfic?
Because they don't write fic, or because fic is scary and it drove them away? My understanding is that anime fandoms and fic have a much higher proportion of men. It was also true of Farscape, interestingly enough.
But popularity is NOT the same thing--status has to do with someone recognizing you as better, and it doesn't matter whether they like you or not.
Synecdoche
Go team Shrift!
My definition is that fandom consists of fans who have sought out other fans, and succeeded in creating a group of fans dedicated to the Thing They Love.
A fan is solitary.
YDMV.
status has to do with someone recognizing you as better, and it doesn't matter whether they like you or not.
But it isn't uncommon for people to refuse to recognize the superior status of people they dislike.
Hmm. Then my husband and I are a fandom of two.
Because they don't write fic, or because fic is scary and it drove them away?
Either one, really. Maybe they glass-ceilinged out.
It's nearly an eternal, unanswerable question.
No, see, I answered it. The problem is, no one agrees with me. (FTR: You're in fandom if you seek new people out specifically for the subject of interest (to contrast against huddling on it with people you know) -- there's some production (fanart, fanfic) tweaking I may need to do, but I consider the -dom part (goes to a B&D Monaghan place for a sex) about community for the sake of the show)
Hmm. I don't try to convince people that Historic Costuming Is Cool, although I very happily talk to people who share my interest. Does that mean that costuming is not fannish?
That is, must it be evangelical to be a fandom?