Gender identity is just a fascination of mine, Cindy. One of my minors in college, and I've tried to keep up with the books out there ever since because I've found that it's so relevant to what goes on in my classroom.

I would agree that women are socialized to be better at that type of cooperative goal achievement.

I keep hearing this (and not just here), but my own experience doesn't back it up. Not saying it's not true on a much larger scale than my life, but gut feeling is that socialization doesn't work as well as the scientists who make this kind of statement would like us to think.

I guess what I need to know is what "that type" means, and what sorts of organisation aren't that type, and some stats that don't throw the already gender-biased fandoms up as evidence.

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Not saying it's not true on a much larger scale than my life, but gut feeling is that socialization doesn't work as well as the scientists who make this kind of statement would like us to think.

Jess, I mostly agree. Keeping up with the literature is an interesting theoretical exercise, but it often doesn't play out in real life experience. I also think that gender roles have been changing very rapidly in the last decade, even more so than before. It's difficult to track any one sociological effect, I think.

and that fandoms are primarily female for the shows in questions.

My question is, "why?"

I mean, I look at the signups for the LOST party, and it's almost completely female. Why? There are certainly oodles of men watching the show.

Are Buffistas primarily female?

FTR, I do believe there are differences between men in women besides goolies and socialization.

Save Enterprise is mostly men, and stands a chance of becoming the most noted (by dint of the whole 3 mil thing) save-our-show campaign.

The boys are doing okay for themselves, I think.

They came to mind because I think of Trek as a masculine fandom. If there's some history of masculine fandoms failing to rally, that would interest me.

Or is the male lack-of-cooperation posited to make fandoms female? Is that how far back the causality goes?

I do believe there are differences between men in women besides goolies and socialization

I think most instances of men in women boils down to goolies, with socialisation if they're lucky.

However, to not harp on the typo -- what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?

As an aside, 3 mil in pledges is surely nice. I can pledge a llama and a case of Do Equiis, but really, doesn't mean I'll give it.

She didn't say "biology", she said "Goolies". There are sex-linked differences in other parts of the bodies than goolies.