Bar maid! Bring me stronger ale! And some plump, succulent babies to eat!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Allyson - Nov 05, 2004 12:11:24 pm PST #2829 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Aww, and Allyson always seemed like one of those hoopy chicks who really knew where her towel was.

I just feel as though I could talk myself out of the towel-need.


Kat - Nov 06, 2004 1:52:37 pm PST #2830 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Okay, did any of you see The Incredibles? Because there's totally two Firefly-like moments where characters get sucked into turbines and killed.

Funny but weird to see in an animated movie aimed at kids.


JenP - Nov 06, 2004 4:23:50 pm PST #2831 of 10001

I just got back from it, Kat. I enjoyed the movie, though during some parts, I had an empathy twinge or two for the people who'd brought all the fairly young kids, because, yeah ... death by turbine. And electro-shock torture. I mean, brief, and all, but still. But I didn't have a kid in tow, so I didn't dwell. Fun little movie. The character of E just had me laughing. I am so easily manipulated.

There was a shout out to one of the Star Wars movies, too, which made me laugh out loud. Me and maybe one other person.


Betsy HP - Nov 06, 2004 6:22:55 pm PST #2832 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

My kids said, in the abstract, "Gosh, that was a weird thing to have in a kids' movie", but they weren't troubled. I said, "Hey, Bambi's mom died", but they said "Yeah, but she wasn't sucked into a turbine."


evil jimi - Nov 06, 2004 6:26:58 pm PST #2833 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Yeah but if they'd had turbines back then, I bet the Bros. Grimm or H.C. Andersen would've had one of their characters killed in that way...cos, cool.


Kat - Nov 06, 2004 6:38:03 pm PST #2834 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Jimi, undoubtedly, the Bros Grimm would have let someone get sucked into a turbine. But animated movies as I've seen them have been about watering it down. It did make me laugh so damned hard. Beware the cape!


Betsy HP - Nov 06, 2004 6:41:50 pm PST #2835 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

It was such a wicked, loving deconstruction of a stereotype. I also loved You caught me monologing!


Polter-Cow - Nov 06, 2004 7:56:02 pm PST #2836 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

We had a little mini-TWoPcon over here, and one of the girls remarked that Tim Minear was probably her favorite writer, ever. And then we babbled about how much we loved "Out of Gas" and "Karma Chameleon." She suggested Tim should get a reality show where he takes over other people's Friday night death slot shows. So Tim, if you pass by, you got fans.

I wanted to see The Incredibles already, but now I want to see it even more for the Firefly whitefont. Damn you all.


DXMachina - Nov 06, 2004 7:56:12 pm PST #2837 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I also loved You caught me monologing!

I loved that bit. As far as the violence level goes, it seems to be about the same as in any of the Star Wars films, and most of the kids have probably seen them already. Also, I think animators can probably get away with a bit more than they could if they were making a live action picture.


evil jimi - Nov 07, 2004 12:00:51 am PST #2838 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

DX ... it's not so much the violence but the fact the character is apparently killed . I mean, how many times has Daffy Duck taken a shotgun blast to the face and hardly anyone bats an eyelid. However, if one of those blasts actually blew his head apart and killed him, then their would be a hell of an uproar.