My kids said, in the abstract, "Gosh, that was a weird thing to have in a kids' movie", but they weren't troubled. I said, "Hey, Bambi's mom died", but they said "Yeah, but she wasn't sucked into a turbine."
Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.
'Unleashed'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Betsy HP - Nov 06, 2004 6:22:55 pm PST #2832 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
evil jimi - Nov 06, 2004 6:26:58 pm PST #2833 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
Yeah but if they'd had turbines back then, I bet the Bros. Grimm or H.C. Andersen would've had one of their characters killed in that way...cos, cool.
Kat - Nov 06, 2004 6:38:03 pm PST #2834 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Jimi, undoubtedly, the Bros Grimm would have let someone get sucked into a turbine. But animated movies as I've seen them have been about watering it down. It did make me laugh so damned hard. Beware the cape!
Betsy HP - Nov 06, 2004 6:41:50 pm PST #2835 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
It was such a wicked, loving deconstruction of a stereotype. I also loved You caught me monologing!
Polter-Cow - Nov 06, 2004 7:56:02 pm PST #2836 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
We had a little mini-TWoPcon over here, and one of the girls remarked that Tim Minear was probably her favorite writer, ever. And then we babbled about how much we loved "Out of Gas" and "Karma Chameleon." She suggested Tim should get a reality show where he takes over other people's Friday night death slot shows. So Tim, if you pass by, you got fans.
I wanted to see The Incredibles already, but now I want to see it even more for the Firefly whitefont. Damn you all.
DXMachina - Nov 06, 2004 7:56:12 pm PST #2837 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I also loved You caught me monologing!
I loved that bit. As far as the violence level goes, it seems to be about the same as in any of the Star Wars films, and most of the kids have probably seen them already. Also, I think animators can probably get away with a bit more than they could if they were making a live action picture.
evil jimi - Nov 07, 2004 12:00:51 am PST #2838 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
DX ... it's not so much the violence but the fact the character is apparently killed . I mean, how many times has Daffy Duck taken a shotgun blast to the face and hardly anyone bats an eyelid. However, if one of those blasts actually blew his head apart and killed him, then their would be a hell of an uproar.
DXMachina - Nov 07, 2004 2:55:05 am PST #2839 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I understand that, but it was still played for laughs, which makes a difference, at least to me. And again, it wasn't a whole lot different than the violence in Return of the Jedi.
Kat - Nov 07, 2004 4:29:14 am PST #2840 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
DX, yeah, I see your point. But also, in the theater I was in the little kid sitting next to Lori (probably 3 or so) started crying when the Jason Lee voiced character snatched Jack-Jack and was going to kidnap him. The boy we were with (7 years old) also got cringey at some of the violence.
I think people assume that animated movies will be not as violent as live action ones, and most of the pixar films previously have not been as violent as this.
DebetEsse - Nov 07, 2004 5:38:51 am PST #2841 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Yeah, Kat. This is the first one to get a PG.