Poor Buffy. Your life resists all things average.

Willow ,'First Date'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 8:52:02 am PST #2784 of 10001

Firefly had me at Wash and his dinosaurs, and completely in love when Mal shot Patience's horse. Serenity just did for me.

It's my bestest favouritist show in the world ever.


Polter-Cow - Oct 31, 2004 8:54:24 am PST #2785 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ah but see, Jars, you got to see the actual pilot. The actual pilot, I think, would have hooked me more than "The Train Job." There were more space hijinks, plus the River mystery was more at the forefront.


DCJensen - Oct 31, 2004 9:03:49 am PST #2786 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

If they would have promoted Serenity as a two-hour "event" launch of the series, and all the usual trappings, I daresay we would have gotten at least a whole season, if not starting to complain about the upcoming holiday mini rerun hell for Season 3 in December.

So, if we want to, we can think of the Serenity movie as the Season 3 finale...


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 9:06:05 am PST #2787 of 10001

Loathe as I am to say anything positive about the decision making process at Fox, I've found that people who've never watched Buffy or Angel respond far better to The Train Job than to Serenity. People who have heard of Joss and Tim and enjoyed their other stuff are far more willing to go with the pace of Serenity.


erikaj - Oct 31, 2004 9:23:11 am PST #2788 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Really? Cause that was the most "Episode one bored." I've ever been, ever. With all due respect to Minear, of course. Cause he does it for real and I'm just some bitch talking to her TV about how she can do better than that while watching L&O 7 million.


Kiba Rika - Oct 31, 2004 9:58:22 am PST #2789 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

I think perhaps showing a 2-hr pilot is just a bad idea. Made my best friend watch Serenity a few months ago, and it took her a bit to get into it.

And I couldn't win her over for the series because she kept running into "Why don't they have energy weapons?" and wouldn't drop it. I grow so tired of fanwanking that. ("Well you see, the parts for plain old firearms are cheaper" - and her argument was "But that's like us using rare antiques." "Well no they aren't ORIGINAL six-shooters they're modernized replicas, see...")

...dropped in to say a thing and then will add two others based on posts way up earlier -

1. SO excited about new show! Like, made noise, had to explain to boyfriend why. (But the statement [ Tim + Jane ] was simple enough for him to understand.)

2. Happy belated birthday, Tim!

3. Re: Matt's statement that [ Tim + Jane = Joss ] and the subsequent allegations that [ Joss never existed ], I thought we had already established, per Shawn and Tom, that [ I am Joss. ] I'm sure some people are tired of that very old joke but I never cease to find it funny, mostly because Shawn and Tom are such brilliant writers.


Monique - Oct 31, 2004 10:32:26 am PST #2790 of 10001

I seriously have yet to find anyone who doesn't at least like the show a lot, once they see it.

  • cough*I didn't like it.*cough*

Now, admittedly, I watched maybe an episode and a half. But nothing drew me in enough to give it another chance.


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 10:45:31 am PST #2791 of 10001

But nothing drew me in enough to give it another chance.

Not even Simon's pretty face and Mal's tight pants? Are you even human?

To each their own, I guess.


Monique - Oct 31, 2004 10:55:29 am PST #2792 of 10001

Well, I can recognize the pretty. I may be an impatient consumer of the new millinieum, but I'm not dead.

I just didn't have the devotion and determination to wait for the show to ping something in me. I thought it was just me at first, but my dad -- who started me on my path toward sci-fi, horror, etc. fandom as a wee youth and, watched or watches Buffy, Angel, Alias and Stargate, among other shows -- also couldn't get into it.

I'm like this about a lot of things people tell me are acquired tastes, actually. Coffee, tea, assorted foods, etc. If I can't appreciate it and enjoy it the first time, I might give it another shot, and if it still doesn't work for me, why keep putting myself through that?

I'm probably the poster child for why the show didn't get a chance to catch on, actually. I've missed a few episodes of Lost, but that I get. Plane go boom, leftover people try to survive. I missed the first couple episodes of Firefly, and it just didn't work for me.


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 11:01:59 am PST #2793 of 10001

I'm currently downloading the first episode of Lost, so in 48 minutes or so, I'll be able to tell you whether I get it or not. But Firefly I got like nothing before or since. Magic, I suppose.