Oh, smacked in the noggin with a 2x4 wrapped in velvet. Yeah, that's what it felt like.

Lorne ,'Smile Time'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 9:06:05 am PST #2787 of 10001

Loathe as I am to say anything positive about the decision making process at Fox, I've found that people who've never watched Buffy or Angel respond far better to The Train Job than to Serenity. People who have heard of Joss and Tim and enjoyed their other stuff are far more willing to go with the pace of Serenity.


erikaj - Oct 31, 2004 9:23:11 am PST #2788 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Really? Cause that was the most "Episode one bored." I've ever been, ever. With all due respect to Minear, of course. Cause he does it for real and I'm just some bitch talking to her TV about how she can do better than that while watching L&O 7 million.


Kiba Rika - Oct 31, 2004 9:58:22 am PST #2789 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

I think perhaps showing a 2-hr pilot is just a bad idea. Made my best friend watch Serenity a few months ago, and it took her a bit to get into it.

And I couldn't win her over for the series because she kept running into "Why don't they have energy weapons?" and wouldn't drop it. I grow so tired of fanwanking that. ("Well you see, the parts for plain old firearms are cheaper" - and her argument was "But that's like us using rare antiques." "Well no they aren't ORIGINAL six-shooters they're modernized replicas, see...")

...dropped in to say a thing and then will add two others based on posts way up earlier -

1. SO excited about new show! Like, made noise, had to explain to boyfriend why. (But the statement [ Tim + Jane ] was simple enough for him to understand.)

2. Happy belated birthday, Tim!

3. Re: Matt's statement that [ Tim + Jane = Joss ] and the subsequent allegations that [ Joss never existed ], I thought we had already established, per Shawn and Tom, that [ I am Joss. ] I'm sure some people are tired of that very old joke but I never cease to find it funny, mostly because Shawn and Tom are such brilliant writers.


Monique - Oct 31, 2004 10:32:26 am PST #2790 of 10001

I seriously have yet to find anyone who doesn't at least like the show a lot, once they see it.

  • cough*I didn't like it.*cough*

Now, admittedly, I watched maybe an episode and a half. But nothing drew me in enough to give it another chance.


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 10:45:31 am PST #2791 of 10001

But nothing drew me in enough to give it another chance.

Not even Simon's pretty face and Mal's tight pants? Are you even human?

To each their own, I guess.


Monique - Oct 31, 2004 10:55:29 am PST #2792 of 10001

Well, I can recognize the pretty. I may be an impatient consumer of the new millinieum, but I'm not dead.

I just didn't have the devotion and determination to wait for the show to ping something in me. I thought it was just me at first, but my dad -- who started me on my path toward sci-fi, horror, etc. fandom as a wee youth and, watched or watches Buffy, Angel, Alias and Stargate, among other shows -- also couldn't get into it.

I'm like this about a lot of things people tell me are acquired tastes, actually. Coffee, tea, assorted foods, etc. If I can't appreciate it and enjoy it the first time, I might give it another shot, and if it still doesn't work for me, why keep putting myself through that?

I'm probably the poster child for why the show didn't get a chance to catch on, actually. I've missed a few episodes of Lost, but that I get. Plane go boom, leftover people try to survive. I missed the first couple episodes of Firefly, and it just didn't work for me.


Jars - Oct 31, 2004 11:01:59 am PST #2793 of 10001

I'm currently downloading the first episode of Lost, so in 48 minutes or so, I'll be able to tell you whether I get it or not. But Firefly I got like nothing before or since. Magic, I suppose.


Alibelle - Oct 31, 2004 11:26:51 am PST #2794 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

I've never seen Lost, and I've never seen the Firefly dvd's. I liked Firefly and I would have kept on watching it, but I didn't fall in love with it. I enjoyed it. But the only reason I sat through "The Train Job" to the end was because of Joss and Tim. I was also really looking forward to a second season, since those have consistently been my favorites, easily, of the other ME productions. So I had that to entice me to keep watching as well. But I don't really feel the loss of the Firefly dvd's in my life, and I probably won't mind waiting until Amazon decides to sell those for $14.99, too.


DCJensen - Oct 31, 2004 3:30:34 pm PST #2795 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Jars, make sure you see the second hour. The first one is more setup. The second is the one-two punch.


libkitty - Nov 01, 2004 9:23:07 am PST #2796 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I should have been more clear in my statement. I've never met someone who watched the episodes in order, who didn't at least like it a lot. Now, I'm sure that there are some people out there, unknown to me, who wouldn't like Firefly under any circumstances. It sounds like some of them are on this board. But I also note that most of the people who chimed in here to say that they didn't like it, hadn't seen it from the beginning.

I like Lost a lot, but was just intrigued at the pilot. I wasn't really hooked for a few episodes. Fury and Dominic Monaghan kept me watching until then.