Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Kalshane - May 20, 2004 6:28:37 am PDT #955 of 3531
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Wes was most likely searched before he was allowed to have the 'sit down' with the wizard guy. So a knife was all he could safely bring besides magic. He need to get the guy off guard.

Okay, this I can see.

Yeah, or his sleeve swords would have been a hell of a lot better than the little fold-away knife he had.

I was fully expecting a sleeve-sword to pop out when they showed his other hand when he was being gutted.


Micole - May 20, 2004 6:32:12 am PDT #956 of 3531
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Am I the only one who thinks Wesley wasn't actually planning to die? Or part of him wasn't, anyway; though part of him found it a relief.

The impression I got from the last scene with Illyria was that he was broken, but starting to grieve in a healthy way and not an obsessive one. That they were, in their own weird way, becoming friends. Or he was thinking of her as a friend, and she was imprinted on him like a baby duck/passionately in love with him and completely bewildered by it.

I wouldn't say it's the same thing as Wes deliberately taking Vale down with a weapon, but it is his saving grace/his destroying insanity in taking on Illyria as a pupil that brought Illyria to Angel's side and made Illyria kill Vale.


Frankenbuddha - May 20, 2004 6:34:30 am PDT #957 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I was fully expecting a sleeve-sword to pop out when they showed his other hand when he was being gutted.

Or, you know Wes, stab BEFORE quipping. You'd think Wesley would have stolen a copy of the Evil Overlord guide during his time at W & H.


Polter-Cow - May 20, 2004 6:43:02 am PDT #958 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

OtherKate, if you see this, would you mind posting your wonderful TWoP post over here so I can bookmark it? Yes, it is that good.

In my mind, the gang isn't dead. They're stuck in an infinite time loop where they're continually fighting, hanging on the edge of death, but still fighting, and they fucking love it.


Vortex - May 20, 2004 6:45:27 am PDT #959 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Angel killed Drogon. ::gulp::

I was a little disappointed that there was no fallout from this, though I did appreciate that he didn't try to lie about it. Guess he learned from Gunn.

I wonder if we were supposed the think that Fred was in some way imprinting on Illyira. Her reaction to Gunn, her worrying about Wesley to come find him, her grief over Wesley all seemed based on Fred's feelings, but were expressed in Illyria's fashion.

And hey, the black guy made it 'till the end (mortally wounded, but still)


Dana - May 20, 2004 6:48:43 am PDT #960 of 3531
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I was glad they got the baby back from the Fell Brethren.

t sigh

My dead gay show. My dead boys. All they would have had to do is kill Connor, and it would have completed my Trifecta of PAIN.

Lindsey's story ended at Dead End for me.


Betsy HP - May 20, 2004 6:53:03 am PDT #961 of 3531
If I only had a brain...

Lorne is clearly a raspberry beret.

I knew Wes was dying from the opening. Not spoiled, just knew. I also knew Lorne was going to kill Lindsey.

Loved the Big Damn Tragedy at the end. Anybody else flashing on Blake's 7?

I kept thinking what the next season would have been like. Wesley gone, Lorne (I think) written off the show, Harmony probably gone. So it's Angel, Gunn, Illyria. Reinforcing the idea that people who stand next to Angel are killed by the collateral effects.


Scrappy - May 20, 2004 6:54:16 am PDT #962 of 3531
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I loved Spike kicking ass while holding a baby.


Kat - May 20, 2004 6:58:54 am PDT #963 of 3531
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Sorry to interrupt the wake, but....

Has anyone posted links to these yet? Show's body isn't even cold and there goes Fox, selling stuff.


billytea - May 20, 2004 6:59:35 am PDT #964 of 3531
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Angel totally had Lindsey wacked.

After their scene, there's no way I can read this as anything but his consolation prize.