Am I the only one who thinks Wesley wasn't actually planning to die? Or part of him wasn't, anyway; though part of him found it a relief.

The impression I got from the last scene with Illyria was that he was broken, but starting to grieve in a healthy way and not an obsessive one. That they were, in their own weird way, becoming friends. Or he was thinking of her as a friend, and she was imprinted on him like a baby duck/passionately in love with him and completely bewildered by it.

I wouldn't say it's the same thing as Wes deliberately taking Vale down with a weapon, but it is his saving grace/his destroying insanity in taking on Illyria as a pupil that brought Illyria to Angel's side and made Illyria kill Vale.

I was fully expecting a sleeve-sword to pop out when they showed his other hand when he was being gutted.

Or, you know Wes, stab BEFORE quipping. You'd think Wesley would have stolen a copy of the Evil Overlord guide during his time at W & H.

OtherKate, if you see this, would you mind posting your wonderful TWoP post over here so I can bookmark it? Yes, it is that good.

In my mind, the gang isn't dead. They're stuck in an infinite time loop where they're continually fighting, hanging on the edge of death, but still fighting, and they fucking love it.

Angel killed Drogon. ::gulp::

I was a little disappointed that there was no fallout from this, though I did appreciate that he didn't try to lie about it. Guess he learned from Gunn.

I wonder if we were supposed the think that Fred was in some way imprinting on Illyira. Her reaction to Gunn, her worrying about Wesley to come find him, her grief over Wesley all seemed based on Fred's feelings, but were expressed in Illyria's fashion.

And hey, the black guy made it 'till the end (mortally wounded, but still)

I was glad they got the baby back from the Fell Brethren.

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My dead gay show. My dead boys. All they would have had to do is kill Connor, and it would have completed my Trifecta of PAIN.

Lindsey's story ended at Dead End for me.

Lorne is clearly a raspberry beret.

I knew Wes was dying from the opening. Not spoiled, just knew. I also knew Lorne was going to kill Lindsey.

Loved the Big Damn Tragedy at the end. Anybody else flashing on Blake's 7?

I kept thinking what the next season would have been like. Wesley gone, Lorne (I think) written off the show, Harmony probably gone. So it's Angel, Gunn, Illyria. Reinforcing the idea that people who stand next to Angel are killed by the collateral effects.

I loved Spike kicking ass while holding a baby.

Sorry to interrupt the wake, but....

Has anyone posted links to these yet? Show's body isn't even cold and there goes Fox, selling stuff.

Angel totally had Lindsey wacked.

After their scene, there's no way I can read this as anything but his consolation prize.

Has anyone posted links to these yet?

Nope, but I'm so not surprised. They did exactly the same thing to Buffy, after all.