Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2004 5:53:06 pm PDT #815 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.

I thought Angel might have signed the paper "Angle" if he really cared about the Shanshu. It'd be a nice nod to the "Buffi&Angle4Evah!" crowd.


Lilty Cash - May 19, 2004 5:54:20 pm PDT #816 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

fans who didn't take to Connor (at least pre Origin), did his presence in the finale make the rest of his storyline worth your while?

Honestly, Cindy, I think it does. I never liked Connor, although I think it was more him that I didn't like, other than the storyline, but as a whole, he means much more to me after seeing the end result- what Angel did the things he did for.


SailAweigh - May 19, 2004 5:55:07 pm PDT #817 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Wrod, Polter-Cow. A toothpick, at least.


askye - May 19, 2004 5:56:38 pm PDT #818 of 3531
Thrive to spite them

but when Angel told Eve that Lindsey wouldn't be coming for her, he seemed to say it with real weight.

This is what I meant to mention...Angel said that Lindsey wasn't coming for Eve like he knew it for a fact. And how could he know it (since he didn't know what was up with everyone else) unless he'd made sure Lindsey wasn't going to come back.

Also in the scheme of what Angel was trying to do killing Lindsey was pretty down there on the list of things for him to do personally. And I like the idea that Lindsey was so sure he and Angel would fight to the death and Angel was so busy with his own plans that he delegated out Lindsey's death.


Steph L. - May 19, 2004 5:57:01 pm PDT #819 of 3531
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And, DAMN, the name of tonight's ep -- "Not Fade Away."

Does the Shanshu thing mean that Spike gets the prize? Of course, he'd have to survive the fight. (God save me from the badfic on Spike's Shanshu.)


Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2004 5:57:19 pm PDT #820 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.

I actually thought it'd be more likely that Angel would have arranged for Harmony to get a soul and a shot at a shanshu than stake her. After all, she was human recently enough to miss it.


Lilty Cash - May 19, 2004 5:58:12 pm PDT #821 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Well I won't back down

No I won't back down

You can stand me up at the gates of hell and I won't back down

- Tom Petty


SailAweigh - May 19, 2004 6:00:01 pm PDT #822 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Does the Shanshu thing mean that Spike gets the prize? Of course, he'd have to survive the fight.

I'm not so sure Angel could sign away the Shanshu if it's his destiny. Somehow "The House Always Wins" left me with the feeling that Angel would avert the Apocalypse and he would Shanshu, no ifs, ands or buts. It's Prophecy. Buffy found out the hard way that Prophecy happens. You can subvert it after the fact, but not before.


Madrigal Costello - May 19, 2004 6:01:57 pm PDT #823 of 3531
It's a remora, dimwit.

The certain thing is that some souled vampire is going to get the Shanshu - so it could be neither Angel nor Spike. Or people could be working off an incorrect translation and it actually means something entirely different - not that he'll just be made human, but that he'll be returned to his human life before he was turned.


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2004 6:08:08 pm PDT #824 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

not that he'll just be made human, but that he'll be returned to his human life before he was turned.

Maybe Angel's already Shanshu'ed, and he got sent back it time to become Liam again, and that's where we picked up the story. Bum bum BUM!