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Inara ,'Serenity'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


DavidS - Jan 05, 2005 10:33:42 am PST #2888 of 3531
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Origin and Smile Time, with a couple of 4.5 star eps (You're Welcome and Lineage) coming close behind them.

You're a tough grader, but I appreciate that about you. How many stars for the lucha libre?


P.M. Marc - Jan 05, 2005 10:34:49 am PST #2889 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You're a tough grader, but I appreciate that about you. How many stars for the lucha libre?

Ooo! I left it out! Probably 4.55


Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 10:45:08 am PST #2890 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

You're a tough grader, but I appreciate that about you. How many stars for the lucha libre?

Is that a ref to "Numero Cinco"?

And again, my brain, she does not work for me today wrt titles - which one is "Lineage"?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 05, 2005 10:46:54 am PST #2891 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Roy Dotrice as Wesley's Dadbot.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2005 10:47:40 am PST #2892 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Roy Dotrice as Wesley's Dadbot.

Thank you. And yes, another primo ep.


DavidS - Jan 05, 2005 10:50:39 am PST #2893 of 3531
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Is that a ref to "Numero Cinco"?

Yep.

Roy Dotrice as Wesley's Dadbot.

Bang. Bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangbang.


Vonnie K - Jan 05, 2005 10:51:40 am PST #2894 of 3531
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Wow, I'd forgotten, but S5 had some excellent episodes. Actually, other than The Girl in Question, I can't even think of an episode I disliked off the top of my head. I thought the Harmony episode and the WWII flashback episodes were subpar, but even those had some good bits, like the chopstick fight and the whole Lawson/Connor parallel.


Lyra Jane - Jan 05, 2005 10:52:09 am PST #2895 of 3531
Up with the sun

I tend to share the opinion that the quality tended to seesaw, with one show waxing as the other waned. But I think Buffy in its pure state in the early seasons was better than either of the divided efforts

I would agree with this, especially if you compare BuffyS7 to AngelS4.

Overall, I think Angel is probably the better-executed show, but Buffy is more ... I almost want to say adorable. Lovable, maybe? I watch Angel with my head, Buffy with my heart.

Also, I think Angel was much more consistent. The best Buffy episodes are better than the best Angel episodes, but even bad episodes of Angel are better than much of S7Buffy. (I got it when it was on sale after T'giving. Tried to watch. Couldn't.)

I also agree that "Origin" is an excellent episode. I don't consider it a personal favorite because, while I grew to like Connor a LOT in S4, I thought "Home" was the perfect ending to his story, and bringing him back for an encore just felt like the kind of ploy you'd see on other, inferior TV shows.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 05, 2005 10:54:41 am PST #2896 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For me "You're Welcome" "Smile Time" and "Not Fade Away" were the five star ones. "Numero Cinco" "Shells" "Origin" and "Time Bomb" were the other real hits. (And even averaging in Spike's all-too-pervasive presence only "Hellbound" and "Let's Play Dog-in-the-Manger with Buffy in Absentia" really rankled.)


DavidS - Jan 05, 2005 10:54:46 am PST #2897 of 3531
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I thought "Home" was the perfect ending to his story, and bringing him back for an encore just felt like the kind of ploy you'd see on other, inferior TV shows.

I'd agree except his character was so interesting when he came back. The dynamic with Angel was so loaded and complex and fascinating.