'Unleashed'
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I know many of you will be all sticky over the Hottt-Wesley-with-weapons, but this is my favorite, from the end of the article:
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Angel, first 18 episodes, season 2.
Dude. That's some TV.
It's possible that "Origin" is my favorite episode of the entire 5 seasons. It's just note-perfect the whole way through, the way "Surprise"/"Innocence" and "Passion" are for BTVS. Not a single false step.
But I think Buffy in its pure state in the early seasons was better than either of the divided efforts.
You're a Buffista who thinks Buffy season 1 is the best, right Matt?
Angel, first 18 episodes, season 2.
If you're leaving out the end of season 2, you may as well take the last 6 from season 1, which set it up.
I'm totally embarassed, but which one is "Origin" again?
I'm totally embarassed, but which one is "Origin" again?
Connor returns and kicks Sajahn's ass.
Connor returns and kicks Sajahn's ass.
Ah. De nada. Yep, that's gooooood TV.
Hell, yeah, that was a good ep.
I think that the Angel season I enjoyed the most while I was watching was Season 2, but in retrospect, I love the whole Connor two-season arc (culminating in "Origin") for how utterly dark it made the entire show, and where it took all of the characters involved (except for Cordy--she shone the best in Season 1 and early Season 2, until she cut her hair).
We've never had a proper, knock-down, drag-out Buffy vs Angel fite, have we?
BtVS in a walk. The only time I preferred AtS was the beginning of the second season. It was the better show during that time period, but even then it wasn't better than Buffy S2-S3. Also, I cared much much more about the characters on BtVS than I did about the characters on AtS. The ruination of Cordelia was the worst crime either show ever committed, far surpassing Crack!Willow or the potentials. I don't know that Angel ever had a season as indifferent as Buffy S7 was though.
Also, AtS never seemed to maintain the brilliance season-long the way Buffy did at its best. Mind, there are multiple mini-arcs on AtS that I love and prefer to much of Buffy S5 and S7.
Connor returns and kicks Sajahn's ass.
That was pretty fucking great.
AtS vs. BtVS. It's a tough one. I didn't discover the shows until late S5 of Buffy, and didn't catch on with Angel until B6/A3 during the large part of which, frankly-speaking, Angel kind of sucked. And I'm one of the few people who mostly enjoyed S7 of Buffy, squandered story-potentials and all.
So Buffy has more of my affection. But in all 12 seasons of the shows combined, I never loved any character as much as I loved Wesley, so there's that. Easy the best character evolution we got to see in Jossverse, IMO.
We've never had a proper, knock-down, drag-out Buffy vs Angel fite, have we?
BtVS in a walk.
Hmm. I think AtS edges out BtVS, just barely. And that's because I didn't dislike any seasons of AtS. Some episodes, sure. But not entire seasons. And I really dislike S7 BtVS.
The ruination of Cordelia was the worst crime either show ever committed, far surpassing Crack!Willow or the potentials.
I'll totally second this emotion. I'm glad big daddy Fury managed to give her such a stunningly redemptive (in terms of the crap they'd done with the character) send off, but I'd trade that wonderful ep if they had never had to. In a micro-second. Killing her off in "Birthday" would have been better, IMO.