Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

'Dirty Girls'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Gandalfe - May 21, 2004 1:56:02 pm PDT #1329 of 3531
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I wouldn't go with the Future, but that's just based on hours spent on lyrics interpretation leading me to conclude that it doesn't suit the mood quite right.

Well, neither does Closing Time. Just a little too . . . . frivolous, I think.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 2:06:56 pm PDT #1330 of 3531
What is even happening?

Also, Cindy, it's Semisonic.

Thanks, P-C. I'd wondered if they'd both done it. I don't think the version I heard yesterday sounds like Green Day, anyhow. But I don't know from Semisonic.

Have also decided, been a HUGE sap, that a Wes/Illyria vid needs to be made to Light as the Breeze.

Oh, if the lyrics that followed the above are LatB, then gah, yes. Can you come visit me for a month? We recently emptied all the boxes that were blocking the guest room.

Gandalfe, the only Cohen I have is lyrics and that's a small bit, and it's all Plei's fault, but I'd say that "The Future" is better suited to a season 4 Connor vid, just based on what you posted here. I haven't heard LC's Closing Time, but don't see frivolity in the lyrics themselves, so much as desperation. Is it the melody that's frivolous to you, or am I missing something in the lyrics?


P.M. Marc - May 21, 2004 2:08:08 pm PDT #1331 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Well, neither does Closing Time. Just a little too . . . . frivolous, I think.

Dude, there's NOTHING frivolous about Closing Time if you examine the combination of lyrics and music. It's half the way to mournful, with a wry sense of humour about it. Perfect wake song.

It's also less abstract, more personal than The Future. The Future isn't a song that plays well with others. The narrator is separate from the apocalypse, a witness to rather than a participant in.


P.M. Marc - May 21, 2004 2:10:20 pm PDT #1332 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I haven't heard LC's Closing Time, but don't see frivolity in the lyrics themselves, so much as desperation. Is it the melody that's frivolous to you, or am I missing something in the lyrics?

There's no frivolity in the music, either. E-me, and I'll hook you up.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 2:10:44 pm PDT #1333 of 3531
What is even happening?

The Future isn't a song that plays well with others.

See? Season 4 Connor vid then, and I don't know anything about Cohen.

I do want a Hallelujah-B/A vid though now. *cough*

eta...

Plei, which address is best?


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 2:18:27 pm PDT #1334 of 3531
What is even happening?

insent to c@c, Plei.


Maysa - May 21, 2004 2:32:41 pm PDT #1335 of 3531

Well, not that anyone cares(!) but I always thought this Neil Finn song would be perfect for a Connor/Angel video.

Goodnight, bless you
Let angels possess you
You'll make dreams of another life

Don't think, it's too much
To close your eyes and leave us
In strange places we come undone

And the building blocks
Sometimes have to crash
Not meant to last
Like a mother's love

It's real life, it's all true
You know how I'll miss you
In quiet moments I'll come undone

And the building blocks
Sometimes have to crash
Not meant to last like a mother's love
Sleep comes when all is laid to rest
That's when you'll find what you're looking for


victor infante - May 21, 2004 4:19:08 pm PDT #1336 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

So. one bit of fic that will have to be written to answer one great, unanswered question of the last two episodes:

How the Hell did Angel get Harry Potter's amulet?


Narrator - May 21, 2004 5:25:50 pm PDT #1337 of 3531
The evil is this way?

Voldemort.


Caterpillar Drive - May 21, 2004 5:46:47 pm PDT #1338 of 3531
Tonight, I am the Law.

As I compare the Buffy finale to the Angel finale, I see one overriding thing common, and it's like i can see plot bunny ears scattering about. I remember seeing an article on the Internet or some other venue where Whedon said he would craft season finales as if they were series finales (just in case the ratings doomed them to cancellation). The Angel finale wasn't about closure as much as it was a rain check, in my opinion. This show is dead, but the idea of it is still alive -- and our parting gift was that the primary -- Angel -- had committed to fight. The Buffy finale was left with a sense of openness--life beyond the arc of Sunnydale. Someone could pick those ideas up and make them work again. From one end, a beginning, so on and so forth.

I agree with many here that substantively the greatest loss in terms of a character was Wesley's. He had one of the best combinations of intellectual agility and physical strength in the entire Buffy-Angel mythos. And we got to see him change from his arrival in Buffy S3. His was one of the great character evolutions of both series.