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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Maysa - May 21, 2004 9:45:50 am PDT #1244 of 3531

Looking back at the last three episodes, I think that Deknight was telling the truth when he said that SMG was never supposed to be in TGiQ. I think Angel and Spike were supposed to stalk her, not see her, and then the next week she appears at W&H a little pissed off and talks to Angel about the mission. His scenes with Nina were probably the Buffy substitute scenes.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 9:48:04 am PDT #1245 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

His scenes with Nina were probably the Buffy substitute scenes.

In my Buffyverse, Angel and Buffy don't sleep together, again.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 9:49:22 am PDT #1246 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My my. I've gotten awfully mama bear about my Buffy in the past year.


Maysa - May 21, 2004 9:50:15 am PDT #1247 of 3531

In my Buffyverse, Angel and Buffy don't sleep together, again.

I don't think they would have slept together, I just think that the scenes would have functioned the same way. To show us his reflections on what he's become.


Hayden - May 21, 2004 9:53:00 am PDT #1248 of 3531
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Living in hayden's brain, am i.

Hey, I thought I was living in yours!

And I'm definitely in the heartless asshole corner on the cancellation, although I prefer to think of it as the stoic & realistic corner.

Maybe it is the same one or two pieces being rehashed in many a place, Gandalfe, but the fact is that Joss is a grown-up. He should know that he got a pretty good deal, all in all. Most writers would kill to have what he's had; it's unprofessional of him to bitch to the media.

That said, I understand why he did so, and I'd probably be a slobbering mess if I'd had to see so much of my work end under unfortunate circumstances. But I would hope to keep my suffering a bit more private. Every time Joss drags someone's name through the mud, there's a bit more of a possibility that he won't get to create another TV show. He should rise above & let the fans do the mudslinging.


Gandalfe - May 21, 2004 9:54:57 am PDT #1249 of 3531
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

We said goodbye to her in Chosen. I felt a bit angry at the concept of using her as a bone for the vampires to fight over. She's my girl, yo. Leave her be.

I can go with that. I don't know that Angel had any more need to say goodbye to her, nor did Spike. I mean, I see what they were trying to do, even if I don't think it was necessary, but if yiou're going to do that, do it RIGHT, you know?


Lilty Cash - May 21, 2004 9:58:00 am PDT #1250 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I don't know that Angel had any more need to say goodbye to her, nor did Spike

I agree with all of this. I am actually content with the way this show wrapped up, and there's not a ton that I'd change. Except for the part with it ending. That I could do without.

But I will forever want just one "Hey Spike, you're not dead. Thanks for saving the world." out of Buffy. Just an acknowledgement would be nice.


victor infante - May 21, 2004 9:59:18 am PDT #1251 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

And that's why he doesn't stake Harmony - he still has hope for her, despite everything. No time to help her right now, but hope.

You know why Angel didn't stake Harmony? Because it would have been a distraction from the REALLY! TOUGH! BAD GUY! who was coming for him just then.

IJS.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 10:01:14 am PDT #1252 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

IJS.

Then why write a letter of recommendation?


victor infante - May 21, 2004 10:03:34 am PDT #1253 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Then why write a letter of recommendation?

Huh. Fair point. Guess he had to have SOME contingency plan in case she comes through.

Eh, maybe I'm wrong.