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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


victor infante - May 21, 2004 9:59:18 am PDT #1251 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

And that's why he doesn't stake Harmony - he still has hope for her, despite everything. No time to help her right now, but hope.

You know why Angel didn't stake Harmony? Because it would have been a distraction from the REALLY! TOUGH! BAD GUY! who was coming for him just then.

IJS.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 10:01:14 am PDT #1252 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

IJS.

Then why write a letter of recommendation?


victor infante - May 21, 2004 10:03:34 am PDT #1253 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Then why write a letter of recommendation?

Huh. Fair point. Guess he had to have SOME contingency plan in case she comes through.

Eh, maybe I'm wrong.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2004 10:04:11 am PDT #1254 of 3531
What is even happening?

Maybe it is the same one or two pieces being rehashed in many a place, Gandalfe, but the fact is that Joss is a grown-up. He should know that he got a pretty good deal, all in all. Most writers would kill to have what he's had; it's unprofessional of him to bitch to the media.

He does, and acknowledges that in pieces that make the rounds, too. The bitter ones are just the ones that seem to cause discussion. I read something this morning, where he sounded appreciative of Levin in particular. When the cancelation was announced, he made appreciative noises that he got enough notice time to take it out the way he wanted to.


Thomash - May 21, 2004 10:05:09 am PDT #1255 of 3531
I have a plan.

Then why write a letter of recommendation?

He was thinking ahead for when he would have that talk with Harmony. Very Joss-vian humor to me.


Wolfram - May 21, 2004 10:05:26 am PDT #1256 of 3531
Visilurking

Most writers would kill to have what he's had; it's unprofessional of him to bitch to the media.

FTR, I've seen some writers really bitch and moan in the media, and Joss hasn't even come close. I don't think he's burning bridges when he tactfully says it like it is.


joe boucher - May 21, 2004 10:08:42 am PDT #1257 of 3531
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I'm not happy about the cancellation, but I wouldn't say I'm mad at the WB. Still, the "your friends at the WB" thing rankled because I don't think the show was well-treated over the years. It wasn't cancelled, and I'm grateful for that, but it seemed to get the same treatment that Newsradio got from NBC. How often can a network expect a show's fans to follow it around the schedule? I'll always think of Angel as a Tuesday show because of the Buffy connection, but in five years it was on four different nights. On Monday it was part of one of the strangest pairings in television history (Seventh Heaven lead-in), and on Sundays and Wednesdays it was against shows that were popular with Buffy and Angel fans (Alias and Malcolm on Sunday, West Wing and the OC on Wednesday). Inept scheduling? Deliberately shooting themselves in the foot? I don't know and I don't care that much, because I'm happy to have had five years of a great show. But "your friends" seemed really disingenuous. Last week in Spoilers the Partyman commented on how odd the preview's "the WB series finale" seemed, and I responded:

I've always thought that the bad feelings between the WB and ME arising from the contentious Buffy negotiations that ended with it moving to UPN got taken out on Angel. The way it kept getting moved around, the lack of promotion, not re-airing eps, etc. So I saw "the WB Series Finale" as a final slap: "Bye. Have fun on your new netw... oh, that's right, you don't have a new network." Of course I have no solid evidence to back that up. Just seemed that way.

Still feel that way, still have no evidence to back it up. The only thing I'd change is that the "friends" had one dig left. YWBFMV.


Scrappy - May 21, 2004 10:09:14 am PDT #1258 of 3531
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

It doesn't even sound like bitching to me. He had more story to tell and is bummed he doesn't get to tell it. I mean, what's the alternative? Not caring? "We're renewed, we're cancelled, same diff."


Hayden - May 21, 2004 10:12:37 am PDT #1259 of 3531
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

The bitter ones are just the ones that seem to cause discussion.

Well, yeah. The man should avoid bitter interviews.

I've seen some writers really bitch and moan in the media, and Joss hasn't even come close.

Sure, but the heights of Chuck Palahniuk aren't so much a standard as a pathetic display. All I'm saying is that I expect more of the man than beating the lowest common denominator.


Allyson - May 21, 2004 10:14:54 am PDT #1260 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

He had more story to tell and is bummed he doesn't get to tell it.

Then why waste time in Rome?

I'm very carpe diem about things. Treat every season as if it could be your last, relish every second of film, and then you get really good teevee. The alternative is too many Potentials.