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Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?

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Lilty Cash - May 20, 2004 10:46:21 am PDT #1094 of 3531

"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I just didn't get that Illyria thinks Gunn is good-looking vibe.

Besides the actual words, it wasn't anything in how Illyria said it that really gave me the vibe, I think. It was more Gunn's amused silent beat before he said anything. Tiny, but there. To me, a cute, not really significant touch.

Edited to say that I'm thinking of Illy in more of an Anya way in this scene. In the same way that Anya would say something along the lines of "I like your penis." to Xander. Such a nice, uncensored voice.

billytea - May 20, 2004 10:46:47 am PDT #1095 of 3531

You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I just didn't get that Illyria thinks Gunn is good-looking vibe

I understand this, but... you got an Illyria thinks Gunn is good company vibe instead?

Wolfram - May 20, 2004 10:53:44 am PDT #1096 of 3531

Visilurking

Don't let it trouble your 'shippy little heart Wolfram, she said it the way she'd say a flower was pretty.

Thanks Cindy. Speaking of I/W shippiness, did anyone else notice that Illyria was still crying after Wes was already dead. The acting became the reality. At least in my finale. YFMV.

I understand this, but... you got an Illyria thinks Gunn is good company vibe instead?

Yeah. Like she was saying to Gunn, "you're a pleasant person to be around." He could have looked like Clem, and in my finale she would have said the same line.

thegrommit - May 20, 2004 10:56:47 am PDT #1097 of 3531

Um.

Speaking of I/W shippiness, did anyone else notice that Illyria was still crying after Wes was already dead. The acting became the reality. At least in my finale. YFMV.

Yes, it was the expression on her face that broke me. The smile for Wes' sake, but the tears for her loss.

tommyrot - May 20, 2004 10:58:20 am PDT #1098 of 3531

Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Speaking of I/W shippiness, did anyone else notice that Illyria was still crying after Wes was already dead.

Yes. It was touching seeing her reveal her true feelings that way...

Jessica - May 20, 2004 11:06:35 am PDT #1099 of 3531

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think the real impact of that line is seeing that Illyria is capable of considering Gunn (or any human other than Wesley) as an individual. That she's thinking of herself as an ex-god, instead of a temporarily inconvenienced god.

Maysa - May 20, 2004 11:15:03 am PDT #1100 of 3531

I think Illyria loved Wesley more than Fred did.

Toddson - May 20, 2004 11:16:51 am PDT #1101 of 3531

Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

so ... Dragon bad, Gunn pretty?

amych - May 20, 2004 11:19:57 am PDT #1102 of 3531

Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think Illyria loved Wesley more than Fred did.

I think you're right. *sob*

Gandalfe - May 20, 2004 11:21:56 am PDT #1103 of 3531

The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I think Illyria loved Wesley more than Fred did.

I think that Wesley was all Illyria ever loved, whereas Fred had other loves to compare it to.

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